Crediting Shows

[frantik2k3]

I really only credit people on my site for IDENTIFICATION purposes when it comes to multiple sources/versions of a show. Remember my site's list is for my own reference (anyone else is free to view it of course), so if I have 3 of the 4 different sources of 2006-06-08 Arnhem, then I will list the tapers name so I know not to trade for that source again when I am looking to trade for the last source that I am missing.

[MetDream]

As a taper..

You're a taper?!!

I knew that, but how many of the newer traders do? In my opinion, the tapers are the unsung heros of the trading hobby. There is so much emphasis of who authored the shows, so much so that the majority of time the taper of the show is lost in oblivion. Granted it takes talent a to author shows and credit is due. And it takes a lot of work to build the connections to acquire master tapes etc... but with out those of you who dare to tape the live shows we wouldn't be in this hobby in the first place.

[Poolzer]

Jeff's comments should be re-read by ANYONE who thinks they're owed and demand credit; his voice is the voice of a veteran that is world known in this community, yet never hypes himself or adertises what he has released other than in that specific thread/torrent.

[metallifreak27]

So to touch on a delicate question and to not get too specific but to discuss a recent issue in a generic way... how do you deal with demands to correct the credits on shows listed in your trader list/site that the person who released them feel are not being credited?

well if there are alot of people who have certain shows listed on there sites/list.

majority of them crediting just 1 person, who done the authoring, but if someone else who was involved in acquiring the shows were to come along demanding that everyone put it as a new credit

well someone like that, who is ordering people to now put his name on the credits etc, just seems like he needs his ego boosted or something

but that is just my opinion

oh, and as for the actual topic, i think its YOUR list that u have ur shows cataloged on, so its up to YOU how u want to list them

[Leighton]

I really hate the term "credit" here. If your version of the show is listed on my site it probably has more to do with reference only, and the fact I don't want to get it twice. The fact I took the time to trade for and watch your work is the real credit. Hell, if you're a taper, collector or author who got it out there then "credit" should always be implied.

If you demand credit then you're a tool.

[Speed Damage]

I don't think crediting them is a big deal, with the amount of shows out there its far too hard to credit everything.

But if you do credit something, it better be correct, or else its worse than nothing at all.

[MetDream]

We all know Kat's answer to this question, as she has made it very clear (in this threads and others), but what about the rest of you? Thoughts, please.

Yet still she's allowed to say something or was that a shut up? Never works for me and no, you probably don't know my opinion, only parts of it... I am not anti-crediting in general.

If you read my post correctly, you would see that my statement was in relation to this particular question that preceded it: So to touch on a delicate question and to not get too specific but to discuss a recent issue in a generic way... how do you deal with demands to correct the credits on shows listed in your trader list/site that the person who released them feel are not being credited?

I was referring to your statement which you made in this and the other thread, that Fade refered to in his post that I quoted, and is in direct relation to that particular question::

Anyway, like I said a million times already, everybody having a website pays for the hosting, maintains the site and put a lot of work into it... so it is 100% up to him/her what information can be found there.

Thus, since you said it a million times, I thought your answer to my question was already abundantly clear and was acknowledging it (since I was asking a question to which you already seemingly answered). Nothing more or nothing less, especially something as personal as telling you to publicly shut up. Geeeze.

NO ONE, me in particular, ever said that you were anti-crediting.

...and if I thought I could actually accomplish such a feat as to get you to shut up, I would have said just that, shut up!

[MetDream]

I don't think crediting them is a big deal, with the amount of shows out there its far too hard to credit everything.

But if you do credit something, it better be correct, or else its worse than nothing at all.

In general I agree with that. But again what is correct? This whole big recent issue is over the fact that someone doesn't think traders have been crediting shows correctly... even through they have been copying what was written on the menus. And what do you do about it when it is brought to your attention.

[Fadingtoblack]

I don't think there IS a correct..... but I do think you should credit somehow - and if I had a page I would.


That's my opinion, but like i said before, people can do on their own pages whatever the hell they like!


What do you do about it? Nothing! (If you don't want to). Basically it's all been blown out of proportion by someone who perhaps needs a little perspective.

[shownomarcy]

there are different point of views...
of course biggest respect for the tapers. I understand if they want to see their names, though I think the biggest reference is if their shows spreaded widely, if theres demand for their tapes. if they not only tape but share also, thats the aim.... in which form are listed, thats only the 2nd, I think.
(Im not a taper, so this is just my opinion in principle)
collectors: (in practice)
info can lost easily... even if a collector has willing to note that info about the bootleg, it isnt sure that its given.
if I get a show, and no credits noted by the trader, and maybe not even on the main menu, may I wont search more to get that info. mainly if I get 20 dvds in a trade... (and I know it slows down the list checking process if sy has to check the info pages to see which source it is, but thats why I usually make screen about the menu, so if I didnt know which source it is, an other trader see the menu, and maybe he/she will know by that)