The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread

[Sabkissmet]

I find it hard to take an RM thing seriously when I look around and I see that the guys who are actually putting new authored beautiful shows out there arent the ones with the RM status. I can name a few people, including myself here.

[sjmike]

It's not going to happen so there is no sense in continuing this discussion. It is a cool idea, but I really dont see us implementing it here on metpage.

Is there a reason why?

I don't see why one couldn't be started by someone outside of metpage. There are plenty of free boards to set such a place up if so desired.

[MetDream]

Well we havent discussed it as a staff as of yet, but based on my interactions with the staff, that is how I see it. If there really is enough interest in something like that we could seriously discuss it.

[MetDream]

So if you dont want us (the staff) to moderate and run it etc... how do we decided who are the 1st ones to get in, etc?

[porcelmc]

The thing about it is, I have done massive searches for rare shows that I have been interested in from numerous bands including Metallica. And I continue to look for some that I am interested in.

The one difference between me and other Rare Show hunters, is that when I find something that is NFT or rare, I make sure it gets the fuck out in circulation. I have liberated numerous shows for that sole purpose. I have even had a couple people on this site ask me not to trade shows out, that I didnt get from them but had on my lsit, and had nothing to do with releasing the said shows, to not trade em out because they are rare. Isnt that strange?

WHile I really have no prob wih you Rare Hoarders having a place to discuss and share your "treasures", all this will do is promote NFT and teach the younger people about greed. I would rather be part of something that promotes the distribtution of these rare shows to all.

All I can try to do is set a good example by giving out anything that people would want. If I did get something that someone gave me not to trade, I give that person the respect and dont even talk about it or list it. Thats a respect. But if no strings were attached I wouldnt dangle anything. There is no pleasure in that and I am not really interested in it. All that would show is that I am trying to increase my trophy board or "dangle" collection. And for what? To wacth a couple shows that no one else can. Thats why I wasnt really excited when the Detroit show came out. I mean shit, its cool to have, but I could live my life without watching it and frankly, I havent yet. I am too busy watching the 06 and 07 tours.

The sad reality is that this mentallity of rare show for rare show trading, will never cease to exsist until all of the old stuff is out. I hope we get there some day so there will never have to be a rare trade forum.

[porcelmc]

Yeah I agree and as I said, I dont think it will ever go away because of the mentallity. As for me, I could care less. I wont give anyone the power to hold shows over my head. I just dont care that much. All I can do is set the example and the example set by others to change the mentallity. I dont fight about shows and I hate when people get so upset over em. Thats childish. Whats the point. If you are gonna dangle something than you shuold expect the negativity. If you cant handle it, than by all means do it in a private forum as you suggest. But thats for others to lose sleep over. Thats the kind of childish drama that honestly is comical to me. I could care less if people sit on there ass and download shows. Maybe if we teach the new folks that when rare shows are found and are released rather than dangled, they will do the same when they find something rare. But shows are onyl rare because of the people who possess them. If you promote that its OK, to just dangle them, what kind of message are you actually sending. SOunds liked mixed messages to me in all honesty.

Everyone has their opinons of course, and some people just want to feel important. Whatever gets people off I guess.

[frantik2k3]

I find it hard to take an RM thing seriously when I look around and I see that the guys who are actually putting new authored beautiful shows out there arent the ones with the RM status. I can name a few people, including myself here.

As stated before many times, the criteria to obtain the RM status here at Metpage DOES NOT ONLY include releasing newly authored beautiful shows. If that was the case, I myself would have never been voted to the RM status years ago. The RMs make member recommendations and eventually vote on each and every recommendation to see if that particular member will be promoted. The current RMs (and staff) look for qualities such as productiveness, helpfulness, kindness, etc to other members of this community (not only the Metpage community, but the ENTIRE Metallica community).

Having a huge collection of cool/unreleased/kick-ass/beautiful shows and sharing them with everyone is awesome and very much appreciated, don't get me wrong there, but the RM status encompasses so much more than that.

[Cjlcooter]

I think it's a huge task to make this work and maybe this community is not ready for it, or not right for it. Trust within the members seems to be a huge issue.

yes trust is deffinately the main reason why i do not want to participate in it, if you cannot trust anyone then this would go nowhere no matter if i have shows to offer or not, i have a problem trusting people and when i do manage to trust someone it seems like they want to put a knife in my back which is sad.

this particular community is deffinately not ready for something like this unfortunately thats the hard truth no offence to the community but most people just cannot handle it. without some sort of arguing or fighting to occur..

Cj

[Glenn]

Everyone has their opinons of course, and some people just want to feel important.

I felt a little important (I have to admit ) when I uploaded 07/13/2007. I was enjoying doing something good for the people in TTD, inhere and on Metfuk. Thats whats matters to me.
Of course there are rare videos I would like to see, but hey...I have other things to do in my life. When I'm dead (hopefully in 50-60 years or so) I won't think about those vids at all anyway, so I'm started to not bother anymore about unsurfaced stuff.

[MetDream]

So if you dont want us (the staff) to moderate and run it etc... how do we decided who are the 1st ones to get in, etc?

I Didnt say i didnt want the staff to run it, just not be a part of the voting process. The whole reason it should be kept here is because of the the way the site is run. I wouldnt be going through all of this if i thought the staff were useless..believe me. I appologize if my post came across like that. I think the group would be stronger if the voting members kept the control member wise.

There are so many great options here for this group in discovering new shows and even educating the newer members in how to search out and identify Rare and unique shows.


my 2 cents

This is what you wrote that made me write that post:

The discussions can remain civilzed and controlled by the members..not the staff here.

That is what sounded like you don't want the staff to be a part of your NFT Club. But I get your drift, so thanks for clarifying.