King_Nothing wrote: I just hope the Bush admin doesnt get ahead of themselves on this one and start glorifying the whole situation. I believe that Saddamn got what he deserved, but mature minds should prevail in this situation and the media should treat him with respect and keep the video out of public eye.
I believe that when Sadam came to power he televised a parliamentary meeting where those who opposed the Baath Party were removed from the room and executed.
That's not quite true. He removed 70-odd people who didn't agree with his policy of not joining with Syria as a single country, had them all tried on crimes of treason. "Only" about 20 were executed. The policy of the former leader was not a very popular one, especially for Saddam as it meant he'd have to relinquish deputy leadership for the Syrian leader. The US supported him seizing control as it meant Syria wouldn't gain power and Iraq would keep Iran busy throughout the 80s cause Saddam wanted their land, not Syrian.
Saddam only became unpopular when he decided to take on Kuwait for stealing Iraqi oil through slant drilling companies... which turned out to be owned by US interests.
As for Bush... wasn't he shit scared of a storm yesterday? I LOLed when I saw the story. Hiding in his car!!!! Sending the missus to a bomb shelter!!
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Luís wrote:Well, I have a very good quote about death penalty that you might recognize:
"Who made you God to say: "I'll take your life from you!""
Who made Saddam God to do exactly that to some 2 million people, the overwhelming majority of whom never had the benefit of a trial to determine their guilt or innocence?
I would agree that 2 wrongs don't make a right, however, Saddam had his "fun in the sun" for 24 years, and he ruined countless lives, so I think this is what he had coming to him.
I think that this whole situation that lead to this execution could of been brought up in a more sensible manor rather then invading the country based on false intel info.
The footage that CNN has shown the world with his dead body afterwards I really do not agree with either. If some other tv station aired a dead American soldier on TV, shit would hit the fan. I know there is a big difference in one way between a dead dictator being shown on tv and a dead American soldier, but at the end of day, they are 2 individuals that share the same rights. Its hypocrisy I tell ya.
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Luís wrote:Fallacy... The fact that he made it doesn't make it right for us to do it as well. And two wrongs don't make a right...
Drawing a moral par between the arbitrary murder committed by Saddam and the outcome of a legitimate trial in a court of justice is a far larger fallacy. Same goes with putting the death of 2 million people on the same level as the death of the man responsible for those two million.
Also, "we" didn't do it, the government of Iraq did.
Lastly, King, I guess you didn't see when media outlets everywhere were running the footage of tortured, burned & charred Americans eh?
Killing him won't give the people who's familly members and freinds got killed under his ruling of Iraq back. It might though, however, be a pretty fair example of the world not accepting people doing what he did. I won't say any names, but it might hopefully prevent some dumbasses, rumorly planning big wars and kill innocent people, to do so.
I think it's ridiculous that the US claims to have been in Iraq to get Saddam. Now they execute him, and the US is all sensitive about it - not sure if they should show it happening or not. I think they should show it to anybody who wants to see it...it was the reason the US was over there in the first place, wasn't it?
It won't do anything to stabilize Iraq, in fact keeping him alive may have more influence. I've seen the video from the cellphone, it was my choice to view it, and it seemed fairly quick, he seemed sedated to me. Like it or not, alot of people think this is justice for what he did. There really is no way to get justice for what he did, so to me it was largely a pointless act. The Kurds will feel they got no justice because he will not even be tried for what he did to those people.
Watching CNN last night I thought was pretty disgusting. Is he dead yet, is he dead yet, is he dead yet! Great TV.
