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TayfunRaider wrote: I think tapers are right on their behalf when they want to get an unreleased show by keeping their unreleased ones. Because that can easily be called fair. It's a fair trade. Nothing ridiculous as long as one makes fun of others cause have an UR show. And I think it be better if they put those NFT shows into another list on their sites not to fierce some traders.

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TayfunRaider wrote: I think tapers are right on their behalf when they want to get an unreleased show by keeping their unreleased ones. Because that can easily be called fair. It's a fair trade. Nothing ridiculous as long as one makes fun of others cause have an UR show. And I think it be better if they put those NFT shows into another list on their sites not to fierce some traders.
that's what i mean...it's just fair and everybody understands it if someone is trying to get a rare or unreleased show for another rare or unreleased show...but these guys shouldn't put these shows on their lists then...in this case nobody will disturb them and ask for these NFT shows!!
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I can speak for me only. I have done a copy of my recordings as I begun to film. Those concerts were given away from guys I have trusted. This mistake will never happen again I hope! This is reason one.
The 2nd reason: Bring a cam into the stadium is very risk. To film a show is hard work. Well I don't want to see my hard work 2 weeks later on the ebay site. Other guys earn money with my concert.
Why are you exciting on the Metfuk site in the thread : Sellers on ebay
oh the guy will sell our shared bootleg another guy doing the same. When someone is sharing a good concert, it will be a logical step that you will find this Bootleg on the ebay site sooner or later!
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The Commader wrote: I can speak for me only. I have done a copy of my recordings as I begun to film. Those concerts were given away from guys I have trusted. This mistake will never happen again I hope! This is reason one.
The 2nd reason: Bring a cam into the stadium is very risk. To film a show is hard work. Well I don't want to see my hard work 2 weeks later on the ebay site. Other guys earn money with my concert.
Why are you exciting on the Metfuk site in the thread : Sellers on ebay
oh the guy will sell our shared bootleg another guy doing the same. When someone is sharing a good concert, it will be a logical step that you will find this Bootleg on the ebay site sooner or later!
And so what?

Now you have your recording, can watch it all day and everything is fine. When you let it out, you still have your copy can watch it and everything is fine. Whats the difference? None. The ONLY difference is you make a lot of music lovers happy. If somebody puts the recording on ebay: so what. You cant blame the whole trading community just because theres one or two black sheep. And it doesnt affect you anyways. You can still watch your copy and everything is fine. You would not even recognize it.

But more so: If everybody would act like you do, there wouldnt be so many great recordings around that we all enjoy watching and talking about. If everybody would be that selfish boards like Metpage would not exist. Many many great multicams would not exist. The show from Chorzow, Poland 2008 you recently asked for would not be in your posession.
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Pete-Rock wrote: And so what?

Now you have your recording, can watch it all day and everything is fine. When you let it out, you still have your copy can watch it and everything is fine. Whats the difference? None. The ONLY difference is you make a lot of music lovers happy. If somebody puts the recording on ebay: so what. You cant blame the whole trading community just because theres one or two black sheep. And it doesnt affect you anyways. You can still watch your copy and everything is fine. You would not even recognize it.
you are definately right, peter...so many metallica friends on this board here and on other boards would be more than happy if some shows appear...and i'm sure they would so much appreciate it and they would also appreciate a lot the work filmers do - getting cams into the venue, filming during the whole show, authoring the shows.

i have filmed quite a few shows too and released them. yes, it was hard work, to bring the cam in, to stand there still for 2 hours and film the band while others heandbang and enjoy the show, it took hours and hours to author the shows and put them on dvds...but guess what, it was all worth this work. now i have some great memories on some amazing shows i have been too...and after releasing them it was nice to see that others are enjoying them too and appreciate it that they now have a memory on the fantastic shows they have visited!!

so, why not let others enjoy also your great filming work??? there will be much more people who would appreciate it and be thankful than some assholes who will try to sell it on ebay!!

if a shows is traded out freely, it's easier for all to get it....and this way one will not be able to make a lot of money when selling it on sites like ebay, because a lot of people already have it!! :skull_laugh:
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norbinho wrote: @ all hoarders
why not share your recordings of the band we all like with others?? i'm sure so many metallica fans here would appreciate your filming work, authoring and efforts to release a show!!

is there any reason that makes sense why some guys don't want to release their videos?? anybody has an answer on this question??
some of the videos i have aquired over the years i have searched my ass off for the best possible quality of some of them, i have also been ran around the fucking block on certain videos right to many many countless dead ends that is far to frusterating, but i was trying to get the community going by sharing the detroit 86 show, (i was trying to make a change) i also thought other people sitting on some of there videos for many many years would follow my lead land share good shit like for a example.. gothenburg 87 1st gen of both parts, a few "unreleased" MOR 88 shows and other unreleased proshot videos from many different years.
but as we all can see none of this good older shit has still seen the light of day, i will let out more shit when i see some older shit come out.. is that really asking for to much?..

i am just quoting this post i am not attacking anyone..
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The fact is a lot of people want shows, but they are never held a cam in his own hand. Anyone can film a show. But why they don't do that? Other idiots like myself (maybe) spread out the show, why should I filming? Peter did you filmed something? I have learned, that I can't trust someone. It must have a reason why some filmer don't trade their stuff. Try to film a show Peter and we can speak again! And why is on Metfuk the Thread: Sellers on ebay! when you want that every fan can see an interesting show. Because on ebay the show were saled. Is that the only reason?
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Cjlcooter wrote:
norbinho wrote: @ all hoarders
why not share your recordings of the band we all like with others?? i'm sure so many metallica fans here would appreciate your filming work, authoring and efforts to release a show!!

is there any reason that makes sense why some guys don't want to release their videos?? anybody has an answer on this question??
some of the videos i have aquired over the years i have searched my ass off for the best possible quality of some of them, i have also been ran around the fucking block on certain videos right to many many countless dead ends that is far to frusterating, but i was trying to get the community going by sharing the detroit 86 show, (i was trying to make a change) i also thought other people sitting on some of there videos for many many years would follow my lead land share good shit like for a example.. gothenburg 87 1st gen of both parts, a few "unreleased" MOR 88 shows and other unreleased proshot videos from many different years.
but as we all can see none of this good older shit has still seen the light of day, i will let out more shit when i see some older shit come out.. is that really asking for to much?..

i am just quoting this post i am not attacking anyone..
i understand what you mean, cj...and yes, it would have been great and it would still be great if others would follow your example and release their rare videos some day too...it would just be great if from time to time some of these videos would appear!!
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i read pretty much everything and i can clearly understand both sides
I see there are these people that tell you not to trade the show, not to list it, and not to talk about it

Not to talk about it...
No I ask you: Do you have ANY IDEA if i have any NFT or Unreleased recording?
Maybe I do. Maybe i don't... if I do, the guy who gave it to me told me not to talk about it. and i didn't, so you have no f' idea.
And If i don't, i'm just making this whole shit up and you should be thinking "wtf is his point?"

but you still have no idea

The point is that these pacts are full of BULLSHIT. if you can't trade it nor list nor talk about it then How the fuck are we having this conversation?
i was never asked nor bugged for a NFT show cause if i have one, no one knows about it! And that's the whole point! Now if you keep teasing us saying you have this and that you might as well share it cause you already betrayed that person who gave you the video in the first place.

if you had any respect for those people who tell you not to talk about the videos we wouldn't be talking about them right now
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nuno_m wrote: if you can't trade it nor list nor talk about it then How the fuck are we having this conversation?
i was never asked nor bugged for a NFT show cause if i have one, no one knows about it! And that's the whole point! Now if you keep teasing us saying you have this and that you might as well share it cause you already betrayed that person who gave you the video in the first place.
you are absolutely right, nuno...everything would be easier if NFT shows wouldn't be on some lists!!!
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