Metallica MSG 11.14.2009 & 11.15.2009 NYCBC

[cotis]

If you sign up for it, you should be responsible for still being in the vine.

That's just my opinion.

[Metfan72]

Cody, no offense buddy, but saying what you are saying, should you not still be in the Mexico vine then?

[cotis]

Dropping off after 6 months of people not sending getting errors...

or

Dropping off cause you can download it online.


Two different things in my opinion, though I can see what you are saying Paul.


After this MSG thing, I'm taking time off. Too many things always seem to go wrong with trading now a days, and as was stated in some others -- it's all greed. Download this, download that. I still prefer snail mail. I download a lot of things to my seedbox, however rarely a show unless I really want it and can't find it available for trade.

I'm going to wait a little while, redo my lists and my philosophies and everything -- then I'll be back.

I just can't take it anymore, some of this crap is unreal.

[cotis]

(since I can't edit)

In going with the theme, it's like you dropping out of the July/August NA vine right? Took too long and was messed up, no?

[Metfan72]

Was just going on the fact that you said you should stay on once signed up.

Things come up, frustration kicks in and so many other variables.

My reasoning for pulling out was simple. Bernd seeded twice to Nick, Chris (Mr.Metal) had to seed twice and all I needed from that vine was 1 show.

I am not saying there should be a penalty for dropping out, others have though.

Long before any of the shows got posted on Demonoid I was already having doubts about staying on this one based on the other 2 vines.

So me pulling out should come as no real surprise as was noted in my post in Bernd's vine.

https://forum.metpage.org/viewtopic.php ... 86#p258686

Bernd, you seeded twice already.

Mr.Metal has seeded twice already, I only need 1 show from here. Honestly, this should be shut down as 4 months have gone by and only 2 people copied is a really horrible ratio.

My Mexico vine has suffered the same fate as this.

Not too sure I want to endure this for the NYCBC vine.

[norbinho]

I still prefer snail mail.

+1

[Metfan72]

I still prefer snail mail.

+1

I still prefer snail mail as well.

But here are my options:

1) Stay on the vine with guys that have historically messed shit up and keep wondering if/when the package will arrive/has it been shipped/has it been copied/are there going to be disc errors?

OR

2) Download it from somewhere else and save myself a ton of headaches and have the shows right away, burnt by me and know there will not be any problems?

Thanks, but no thanks. I will go with option 2. No brainer.

[norbinho]

i can understand your concerns and frustration when seeing how vines here worked recently, paul...hope 2010 will be a better year for the whole trading scene.

[Metfan72]

i can understand your concerns and frustration when seeing how vines here worked recently, paul...hope 2010 will be a better year for the whole trading scene.

Yeah me too Bernd.

But in this instance and with the lack of accountability I am afraid nothing will ever change.

Just how it is.

Last years NYCBC vine was a mess too. The Long Island show was posted before the vine started and the other 2 shows were traded out because someone broke the chain and traded them out when they were not supposed to.

This year is yet another major headache and although i do feel bad for KP, I just had no desire to be a part of it.

Granted I would have been one of the first to get it this time around as Shawn would have sent to me, and I know there are never any issues with him sending shows, but still wanted to avoid it if I could.

[The Commader]

My vine was also destroyed last year and I don`t do something like that again. But this has nothing to do why I removed from this vine!!!!