I agree - most of the stuff on SJ's list is not floating around - i would be very surprised if any of these were offered up for trade. I'd be very surprised if anyone here has any pro-shot shows that JW doesn't.
Audience recorded shows could be a different story. Anyway the reality is that even if someone does have something rare to trade with JW, they are not going to release it and will be holding out for something rare themselves, so it will essentially remain unreleased - unless some kind soul liberated it ;-)
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Re: Metallica - 01.03.1993 Pro Mexico for TRADE..!
yeah like a few others posted before me.
its great to see that JW managed to get hold of it and is willing to at least offer it up for the masses so again thank for the offerings.
but its a shame as well that when looking at JW list along with mikes there prob aint much they aint got which is also nice in a way as we know what is available to some degree and they are only a trade or 2 away.
but when you look at there lists %99 of us will have nothing to offer and this will be listed on only a couple of traders lists for the future.
dont get me wrong im def not complaining as this prob took some doing to aquire.
and i hope you get what your looking for in return.
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its great to see that JW managed to get hold of it and is willing to at least offer it up for the masses so again thank for the offerings.
but its a shame as well that when looking at JW list along with mikes there prob aint much they aint got which is also nice in a way as we know what is available to some degree and they are only a trade or 2 away.
but when you look at there lists %99 of us will have nothing to offer and this will be listed on only a couple of traders lists for the future.
dont get me wrong im def not complaining as this prob took some doing to aquire.
and i hope you get what your looking for in return.
regards
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^ well said Mick i couldn't agree anymore!
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Oh damn, you are right. I was still hoping that he has taped just a few parts. But I can remember of course. Btw, sad thing we never ever met this guy again, who gave us this information, or at least heard something from himnorbinho wrote:that is not true, jörg...he filmed nothing of the show...you know who gave us this information.
i think this list from sj's site doesn't make any sense as nearly none of these shows will ever appear!!
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Re: Metallica - 01.03.1993 Pro Mexico for TRADE..!
A point is always to record, not only trade. Though I know new shows will never be the same category as old shows.deadone wrote: yeah like a few others posted before me.
its great to see that JW managed to get hold of it and is willing to at least offer it up for the masses so again thank for the offerings.
but its a shame as well that when looking at JW list along with mikes there prob aint much they aint got which is also nice in a way as we know what is available to some degree and they are only a trade or 2 away.
but when you look at there lists %99 of us will have nothing to offer and this will be listed on only a couple of traders lists for the future.
dont get me wrong im def not complaining as this prob took some doing to aquire.
and i hope you get what your looking for in return.
regards
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Re: Metallica - 01.03.1993 Pro Mexico for TRADE..!
In some cases the/a own taped recording can be have 10 times more value that a obtained pro shot from some $100's. Let's not forget that some people travel 600 km to a show, completely tired, stay the whole day on the field, maybe face rain, cold, wind.
Have a camera in their hands for almost 3 hours. Pain in the arm, pain in the ears at the end of the day. Hope to not get caught by security and what else more. Does tape not only for him, but does film for the Metallica community as well. After that, travel back, put many hours in authoring the 3 dvd set for everyone, for free!.
That's only one single recording. If some do collect together 5 own taped shows, with the same story as above, offer it, it can/have has the same value if you look totally then one single show. And that should be enough imo. Think of what people have to face to make a recording. In a arena tapers can sit, which makes it maybe a little easyer, but if you record, standing on a field, it's a hard day, from the beginning till the end...Not only look sometimes to the *how much can i get as possible*, but maybe have respect for what shows someone can get/offer, and stand still for some moments, what people have to face to get it all done.
Not to push this, but just a suggestion, that you can also look it from the other side of something.
Besides this, i want to thank the people who made show show possible to get it out. (someone must had it in 1993)
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Have a camera in their hands for almost 3 hours. Pain in the arm, pain in the ears at the end of the day. Hope to not get caught by security and what else more. Does tape not only for him, but does film for the Metallica community as well. After that, travel back, put many hours in authoring the 3 dvd set for everyone, for free!.
That's only one single recording. If some do collect together 5 own taped shows, with the same story as above, offer it, it can/have has the same value if you look totally then one single show. And that should be enough imo. Think of what people have to face to make a recording. In a arena tapers can sit, which makes it maybe a little easyer, but if you record, standing on a field, it's a hard day, from the beginning till the end...Not only look sometimes to the *how much can i get as possible*, but maybe have respect for what shows someone can get/offer, and stand still for some moments, what people have to face to get it all done.
Not to push this, but just a suggestion, that you can also look it from the other side of something.
Besides this, i want to thank the people who made show show possible to get it out. (someone must had it in 1993)

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Touring for two years was more than my body could take.You're there and your head tells you that you have to go on,
but your body is close to giving out. Five to six days a week,
i was on stage for about two and a half hours every night.
Doing that for over two years, my larynx didn't feel great,
it felt like my vocal cords were just falling apart
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Re: Metallica - 01.03.1993 Pro Mexico for TRADE..!
you are one of the very very few people left who really know what a taper/filmer does and has to deal with and what trading was really about some years ago.Sailing home wrote: In some cases the/a own taped recording can be have 10 times more value that a obtained pro shot from some $100's. Let's not forget that some people travel 600 km to a show, completely tired, stay the whole day on the field, maybe face rain, cold, wind.
Have a camera in their hands for almost 3 hours. Pain in the arm, pain in the ears at the end of the day. Hope to not get caught by security and what else more. Does tape not only for him, but does film for the Metallica community as well. After that, travel back, put many hours in authoring the 3 dvd set for everyone, for free!.
if one never taped/filmed a show, one does not know what this all means and how it feels!!
PS: about the mexico pro, he has the show, he can do what he wants with it wether we like that or not...it has always been like that with newly surfaced shows.
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Detroit 91 had at least one recorded too. When 1/3 of it was released by Dave_Jr it hinted certain collectors had the whole show.sjmike wrote: I don't know how the Mexico City was originally acquired. The story I was told that one of Metallica roadies captured the screen feed for some the shows. These are the known ones that were recorded.
Den Bosch 92
Basel 93
Milton Keynes 93
Mexico City 93
I'm told that were was possibly up to 7 recorded, but not sure what the other 3 are.
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Leighton wrote:Detroit 91 had at least one recorded too. When 1/3 of it was released by Dave_Jr it hinted certain collectors had the whole show.sjmike wrote: I don't know how the Mexico City was originally acquired. The story I was told that one of Metallica roadies captured the screen feed for some the shows. These are the known ones that were recorded.
Den Bosch 92
Basel 93
Milton Keynes 93
Mexico City 93
I'm told that were was possibly up to 7 recorded, but not sure what the other 3 are.
Yeah, i remember when he seeded it for the first time at metfuk, he said had to ask the guy by mail, if there was a change
if the full show could be released. But nothing heard from Dave.jr since that time about that. That was 2 years ago or something.

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Touring for two years was more than my body could take.You're there and your head tells you that you have to go on,
but your body is close to giving out. Five to six days a week,
i was on stage for about two and a half hours every night.
Doing that for over two years, my larynx didn't feel great,
it felt like my vocal cords were just falling apart
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