The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread

[deeds]

Screw you guys.. I'm going to METFUK

[flickn]

I have that show already , its free for trades as well , you have a nice fucking day

[metalupyourass]

Have a nice fucking day

I really like to put fucking into places it doesnt really belong...
Like:
- Hallfukinluja
- Thank you very fukin much
- Absofukinlutely

And so on..

i like fucking in places it doesnt really belong as well

absamotherfukin......lutely

[psl86]

i like fucking in places it doesnt really belong as well

absamotherfukin......lutely

And dont forget fukin in places like on the bathroom on a restaurant or other public places....

[Poolzer]

bump, use this thread for all NFT stuff!

[Metallifold]

....and I'll go shake hands with that Cannibal over there!


Let's see if We can keep the Fighting in this thread

[Poolzer]

Well I cant just pass an opportunity to say something about this. We all know where I stand on this whole NFT situation. I've made that very clear over the past year. As far as what poolzer said, I have stepped up to set the example releasing and sharing many unreleased shows and upgrades and everything else that I possibly could. I have transferred and authored a number of shows to share with the communtiy, Some where not even known yet but I still traded them freely. But in return I get nothing and told I cant even have a damn show that was taped from television. How ridiculous is that?

Now what is Backstabbing? Can someone explain this to me please. Is backstabbing when you get a show that was performed by a band for 1000's of people to enjoy and come to a Trading Board and trade the show for other shows you dont have? Is that backstabbing? I thought that was trading and thats why we are all here. The backstabbers are the ones holding out on shows not sharing them. They are backstabbing the band, Backstabbing the filmers who took the chance and the time to make the shows for the fans to enjoy then some ass decides its too good of quality and its NFT. Also making themselves look like total assholes in the process.

We all share the same interests in music, we all share the same love for this band and we all share the same enjoyment for live performances. But if you share a show, you're a backstabber. That makes no sense what so ever. So maybe next time I get a show thats unreleased or uncommon, Ill just keep it to myself and put it on my website as NFT to make myself feel good and instead of sharing it, Ill just brag about it and maybe I'll fit in with the rest of the assholes around here. You people with you're NFT shows on your trading lists can go fuck yourselves because as I said before, I will no longer help you out. You've given nothing to the community, you just take. We don't need that shit around here. I think everyone has had it with even reading posts like this. I know I'm sick of writing about it.

Thats outstanding and I hope others DO realize what you have done for the community and we need more people like you to set the example.

My thoughts on backstabbing was pretty much answered in your last sentance above, you did all that work and what did you see in return? Nothing...not that you may have expected something but to be denied and all, thats shady in my mind.

Ill leave with a great quote from a smart person:

on the one hand I respect the effort from people that are trying to change the NFT attitude in this community because it has gotten out of hand. People listing shows as NFT that are traded freely by other traders

but on the other hand....
there will always be shows that will be NFT and if a trader or filmer asks me to keep a show NFT, I'm gonna respect their wishes.............even if they're just being greedy or whatever.

I would just rather be laid back about it rather than getting pissed off arguing, which kind of ruins the hobby. If I can't get a show that I want, that sucks, but oh well

In other words, respect the trader if they HAVE to NFT it, and educate others that have an NFT show that shouldnt be listed as such. How hard of a concept is this?

[creepingdeath1128]

Looks like somehow I missed this thread originally. Most of the facts have already been stated in this thread so theres no reason to keep saying the same things over and over again. Let Me start by saying where I stand on this whole NFT Situation for those that don't know yet. I have and will always respect ones right to keep a show NFT when its for the right reasons. (ie Filmers request, Bands request, etc.) Traders request to keep a show NFT does not work with me, thats just retarded because who gave you the right to make that decision. But everyone at one point or another, including myself, has or will have shows that are NFT. Now its how this is presented that pisses me off and most the other traders I know. Since the day I came to this page, I've been fighting this NFT bullshit. And NFT on the stupidest shows. The first day I came to metpage I had the pleasure of seeing 2 shows that I got from a filmer and traded to a few people listed as NFT or Rare Trade only on peoples websites. Now who made that decision? It wasnt the filmer and it wasn't me. It was some asshole I traded the show to that realized since not many people had it, he was going to use for his own personal gain or just wanted to look cool. So right away I had a bad taste in my mouth. If you think that making little pages and writing "Trading Availibility NONE" is a cool thing to do, you are wrong. You're just an asshole and I'm telling you this now. Putting little gif images of NFT logos next to your shows, get a life. That is just senseless bragging and gloating and I for one will not tolerate it and I'll be more than happy to tell you that you look like an asshole. Especially when I have the same show to trade freely.

One thing I will point out is now that we have PSLs List of metallica bootlegs, the excuse its so people can see whats out there will not fly any longer. There is one reason and one reason only people have NFT shit on their list. And its not for reference, and its not because they can't keep track of what shows they have so who ever said that was just wrong. If you have a show thats so important that its NFT, you're not going to forget what it is so don't give me that bullshit that its there so you don't forget you have it. The only reason you people put that shit on your list is because you're on some type of ego trip where you think you will look cooler or more people will like you if you have NFT shows. And I as well as many other people will not trade with people that shows NFT on their list anymore. So i'm not the one that will be losing out since you wont trade the show anyway, its going to be their loss. So good luck with you're collections because you will be finding out that will be hurting it, not making it better. And you are not cool despite what you think of yourself.

Ok so thats my addition to this thread. If anyone wants to disagree with me or you want to go rounds with me, Its open season here so feel free to bring it on. Now I'm not here trying to make enemies or attacking anyone directly, Im attacking the NFT Club members as a whole. Its a club I don't belong to and its a club i have no desire to be in. But as RNRV said in his post earlier today, if this shit isn't discussed it will never get resolved. And I'm more than happy to discuss it civilly, i just get frustrated when I see this shit day in and day out for no apparent reason and its just a matter of people trying to look cool who have never given anything to the community to begin with.

Metallica didnt put these shows on for 1 person to enjoy, they put the shows on for all the fans to enjoy. Even with all our differences, one thing we all share in common is we are all Metallica fans and we should all be able to share that together. We should work together to make this community a better place instead of the hostile environment its turning into. Other communitys laugh at our lack of trust and respect for one another. Everyone here wants to watch the best shows and have the best shows and that could be possible. All we have to do is share what we have with each other. Its not that hard.

[SKOM666]

I agree whole heartly with creepingdeath. Why must some people be assholes about this! There just fucking greedy! What's wrong with wanting to best shows without some cock not wanting to trade it because they think it's 'rare'!

[Yetti]

Alright so heres the deal.
Im pretty at an agreement with alot of everyones points...im a pretty laid back guy and im an understandable one as well...and i see where you all are comming from.

The only thing i have a problem with is if any of you guys have a fucking problem with the way list my shows SORRY!
If "Trading Availibility: NONE" bothers you thats too fucking bad...95% of the shows on my list are "Trading Availibility: REGULAR TRADES" I aint trying to take no ego trip and some BS like that...all i do is enjoy collecting shows.

The ones i do have that arent for trade are From Either The Tapers or someone that has the master tapes/copies that converted the show to DVD.

With respects to a few shows i labeled NFT from people that asked me to keep it NFT IE Dortmund 91. I dont consider my self a backstabber and im pretty sure at least some of you would not like to be called a backstabber. So if someone asks me to keep a show NFT trade IE DORTMUND 91...and i go around trading it like a slut for the fact i dont believe in not for trade...would that make me a backstabber? What would one of you do in that situation?

I share the question like alot of you do...why someone would label a mid gen tape from 91 NFT that is pretty much crap compaired to the freely traded second nite Dortmund?
If Dortmund is that big of a problem with some of you that started this "NFT SHIT STORM" Then Ask me in a pm about the show.

I include on my site AND I QUOTE!:
"If you are interested in a show I have please dont hesitate to contact me. All Important shows will have specific comments to them if they require any trading direcitons. But again, please dont hesitate to contact me"

I consider myself to be a pretty approachable guy and a trustable trader. So if any of you have a problem with a show on my list....I CANNOT EXPRESS IT ENOUGH Contact me about it and like i said before i will give you the scoop, Most of the time ill either tell you who/where i got the show from. Or else Get incontact with the guy i got it from and see if i can hook you up. ITS THAT SIMPLE!

Durring my posts @ Flickn the other day Greystroke pmed me about a show i got and needed some info on it...and gave him his info and showed him where i got the show from.

If i have a show on my list thats NFT It dont mean its NOT FUCKING AVAILABLE...ill say it again...contact me about it and ill give you the scoop on the show and i might be able to help you get it. If i cant get it for you i will at least try my best.

Now @Creepingdeath if you are using me as an example which its not hard to figre out that you are, its cool though. Also If you are referencing Minneapolis 91 for what i put NO tradeing on...then thats Bullshit. When me and you made one of our first trades November 13, 2004. You Initially told me it was a Master, which it turned out to be 2nd gen(But no big deal to me)...and you didnt want it traded around. You didnt even want me to put it on my list at first...
I wasnt sure if you really had the mastertapes or if you just wanted to keep the show rare for your own enjoyment. I was just excited to have a Show from the state i live in. I really didnt care all i knew was yuo didnt want it traded around and i respected that. To this day i dont think i have traded the show out more then once cuz thats what you wanted.

If you would have said something different, i wouldn't have kept it Not for trade...not only till i saw that the show was on more peoples lists did i put it on my list...but i forgot to change the tradeability thingy on it which i changed a few days ago.
And if you had a problem with the way i labled the show in the first place you could have said "Dood you dont have to keep that Minneapolis show you got from me NFT" And i would have said "alright cool man, Thanks for letting me know" And it would have been taken care of.
But nooo i get my ass rubbed in the dirt about it.

You all can formulate your own opinions about the way i trade...i just want to clear my name on some of this shit thats getting rubbed in my face.

If you want to address anymore issues you have about my list/site. whether it be the way i label my generations, how many disks a show is...the way i have a picture of the show on my site Ect... Feel free.
Im not out to impress anyone or anything just do something that i love to do....

-Yetti