Zarqawi Dead

[Danallica]

This is a good catch, but everyone who supports Bush with this Iraq invasion is quite stupid.

I support the war, but not the way that bush went about it...i think any other leader of a country would have been in and out of there by now and have established a secure democracy

[flickn]

drop 500 lb bombs then ask qeustions later

[superman321]

In the end, nothign can excuse what Saddam did, however you just have to wonder, given all the infighting in Iraq now, whether he was the way he was for a reason.

I have never supported the war, but I still don't get the argument that somehow Iraq should be some sort of Western Democracy by now - that's and unachievable ideal. Think, it took France, Britain etc. 100s of years to achieve their democracies. It took America a long time as well, and it was only shorter than it could have been because they, like us here in Aus., inherited a British sense of democracy. It will, and no matter would have, take Iraq many, many years before it is a stable democracy. And the fact that Saddam's fall was due to foreign intervention and invassion has just made thsi time period longer.

[flickn]

when my founding fathers created the constituion, it wasnt considered a "western democracy" !!

thus saying bush is trying to make iraq a western democracy is ridiculous

[Judge B]

when my founding fathers created the constituion, it wasnt considered a "western democracy" !!

thus saying bush is trying to make iraq a western democracy is ridiculous

I don't think that's the main concern right now.

[muyfa]

technically the US is a "constitution-based, Federal Republic", based on democratic principles that determine our representative form of gov't.

And that is the style of Government that is being implemented in Iraq, however it has it's own set of rights, rules etc. because it is defined by the people, culture, and customs of those citizens.

[Fadingtoblack]

In the end, nothign can excuse what Saddam did, however you just have to wonder, given all the infighting in Iraq now, whether he was the way he was for a reason.

That's one of things I couldn't stand when the war first started raging a few years ago.


I couldn't understand that people were getting so anti-American, they were practically cheering on Saddam and stating publicly they wanted to see the mass slaughter of American troops!

I mean I can understand you hold a viewpoint, but our guys were over there too, and they deserved our full support whether you agreed with the war or not. They are there now - you support them. End of argument as far as I'm concerned. Or are these guys going to be the Vietnam vets of the 21st century?


Saddam is definetly a product of the region, and the culture. As are the terrorists, the extremists, and yes, even Akhmed Joe Blogs who just wants to run his fruit shop in peace.

While I do believe a country based on Islam can thrive, in the Middle East for one reason or another, the system is broken, and that's why we people like Saddam Hussein appear, and make it even worse.

[Leighton]

I couldn't understand that people were getting so anti-American, they were practically cheering on Saddam and stating publicly they wanted to see the mass slaughter of American troops!

You don't understand because that's what no-one was saying. People just didn't want us there in the first place because we knew exactly where we'd be now.

Listen to these people in the future, then you'll understand. You now know who was right, so the same mistake can't be made again.

Saddam was put in place and trained by the US to attack Iran. Indisputable.
Osama bin Laden was trained by the US to attack the Soviets. Indisputable.

Both came back to bite America on the arse. You learn from this shit so it doesn't happen again, not so you can repeat it down the track so the media can talk up a glorified freedom-fighter into some sort of Darth Vader-like villian.

Osama will beat America, but not by truck bombs or hyjacking planes into buildings, he just sits back and watches America spend it's way into the sinkhole. Exactly what happened to the Soviets in the Cold War will happen to the US in the War on Terror if it doesn't shape up and fight it smart.

America won't attack Iran for 2 reasons, 1, they don't have the resources with Iraq going on and 2, they didn't manipulate the situation in the lead up. About 10 years of blockades would help. Even then, Iran is a much more civilised and mature region than Baghdad ever was.

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=32

[King_Nothing]

I dont understand why it is perfectly fine for the US to show pictures on TV of dead Iraqi's or whatever, but when it comes to another country showing a picture of a Dead American or Brit on TV, they cry Geneva Convention.

[flickn]

I dont understand why it is perfectly fine for the US to show pictures on TV of dead Iraqi's or whatever, but when it comes to another country showing a picture of a Dead American or Brit on TV, they cry Geneva Convention.

hmmm good qeustion, on the iran affair we are no the only country shaking our finger at them ,and we have plenty of resources to kick their ass, why ?We are right next door to them in Iraq.our b -51 bombers are parked right there at bahraim airbase