Things That Are Wrong With The World

[Judge B]

But it's only America that's openly supporting Israel. Everyone else wants restraint.

Why they started to support Israel in first place?

I have no idea, could someone tell me.

[Danallica]

But it's only America that's openly supporting Israel. Everyone else wants restraint.

Why they started to support Israel in first place?

I have no idea, could someone tell me.

Most probably to do with the fact that Jews own the world, youd want to be on the good side of them, given how many American corporations are owned by Jews, and given how much manipulation large scale companies have on the politics of the US

[superman321]

Jews own the world

I think that is a somewhat exageration. There are a number of companies but it isn't out of proportion. It is more likely to do with the hugely powerful pro-Israeli lobby which exists throughout America and the money it puts into campaigns, election etc.

[Danallica]

Jews own the world

I think that is a somewhat exageration. There are a number of companies but it isn't out of proportion. It is more likely to do with the hugely powerful pro-Israeli lobby which exists throughout America and the money it puts into campaigns, election etc.

and why does this pro isreali lobby exist

[Breadfan_GER]

and why does this pro isreali lobby exist

WHY??? ... BECAUSE!!! ... BUT, ...

Face the fact, the human beings are full of hate ...

If you want justice or discuss a "GUILT QUESTION", then start topics like:

"I hate blacks because ...."
"I hate germans because ..."
"i hate jews because ..."
"i hate iraquis because ..."
"i hate THE WORLD because ..."
"Europe is shit because ..."
"The US is shit because ..."

to go back to the topic:

"Things That Are Wrong With The World"

Hoarding shows ...

Edit: i am just joking.

[superman321]

Becuase in American politics almost all major interest groups are represented in the form of lobby groups, from the gun rights groups to gun control advocates to feminists, to pro-Israeli advocates. What makes you powerful in that system is money. It is too easy to single Jewish people out and somehow claim they have undue power. It has been done for centuries and has never been based on fact.

As for Hoarding shows - too true.

[Danallica]

I wasnt merely singling out Jews and claiming that they have undue power, what I was saying is that the primary reason for the USs backing of Isreal is to do with the amount of power Jews have in American politics, more often than not through an indirect manner. In that many American corporations are run and owned by Jews, American politics is largely shaped by the corporate world, hence Jews have a great deal of power in US politics. Its only logical that America aid Isreal, if not only in thier best interests domestically, but also the whole national security thing.

[superman321]

Yeah, I understood you mate. What I was more trying to say - not so well it seems - is that you have to be careful with statements like 'Jews own the world' simply because sweeping statements like that have been used in the past, and continue to be used today, by anti-Semitics to purport their own bigoted conspiracy theories. I'm not in any way saying this is what you were doing, merely saying you just have to be careful because usually, sweeping statements like that are used by those bigots. Cya at uni mate.

[Teamtallica]

A VERY sick sick sick picture and a very hard situation to discuss, let alone find a solution for.

Just one small comment on the post of Israel giving up land for peace; the territories that were mentioned (Sinai, the south of Lebanon, Gaza etc) were first occupied by Israel, then given back. It's not like Israel ever gave up any part of the country itself, they first took it away from others, then returned it. Like taking your neighbours garden and then giving it back to try and keep the peace in the street.

Not judging on the whole Israel/Arabic situation, just wanted to point this out. The situation is way too complicated and too out of control to try and solve right here, right now I'm afraid.

[Danallica]

Yeah, I understood you mate. What I was more trying to say - not so well it seems - is that you have to be careful with statements like 'Jews own the world' simply because sweeping statements like that have been used in the past, and continue to be used today, by anti-Semitics to purport their own bigoted conspiracy theories. I'm not in any way saying this is what you were doing, merely saying you just have to be careful because usually, sweeping statements like that are used by those bigots. Cya at uni mate.

fair enough