Teamtallica wrote:A VERY sick sick sick picture and a very hard situation to discuss, let alone find a solution for.
Just one small comment on the post of Israel giving up land for peace; the territories that were mentioned (Sinai, the south of Lebanon, Gaza etc) were first occupied by Israel, then given back. It's not like Israel ever gave up any part of the country itself, they first took it away from others, then returned it. Like taking your neighbours garden and then giving it back to try and keep the peace in the street.
Not judging on the whole Israel/Arabic situation, just wanted to point this out. The situation is way too complicated and too out of control to try and solve right here, right now I'm afraid.
I agree that a 50+ year old conflict cannot be resolved within the forum of Metpage (although in some respects we could have a better chance than the UN).
Sinai and Gaza were areas that were taken during the 6 Day War in 1967. It was a war that was about to be waged on Israel by 5 nations. But Israel, seeing what was about to happen with the movement of Arab troops to it's borders and the threats from their leaders to drive Israel into the seas, got in first and captured lots of land. Southern Lebanon was occupied under similar circumstances that we are seeing today, only in 1982 it was the PLO launching attacks across the border. Israel has returned these lands in exchange for a peace deal - although this didn't work in the case of Lebanon and Gaza, and, as expected, the return of land just brought the frontlines closer to Israel.
Peace deals have worked with Egypt and Jordan.
Teamtallica wrote: A VERY sick sick sick picture and a very hard situation to discuss, let alone find a solution for.
Just one small comment on the post of Israel giving up land for peace; the territories that were mentioned (Sinai, the south of Lebanon, Gaza etc) were first occupied by Israel, then given back. It's not like Israel ever gave up any part of the country itself, they first took it away from others, then returned it. Like taking your neighbours garden and then giving it back to try and keep the peace in the street.
Not judging on the whole Israel/Arabic situation, just wanted to point this out. The situation is way too complicated and too out of control to try and solve right here, right now I'm afraid.
I agree that a 50+ year old conflict cannot be resolved within the forum of Metpage (although in some respects we could have a better chance than the UN).
Sinai and Gaza were areas that were taken during the 6 Day War in 1967. It was a war that was about to be waged on Israel by 5 nations. But Israel, seeing what was about to happen with the movement of Arab troops to it's borders and the threats from their leaders to drive Israel into the seas, got in first and captured lots of land. Southern Lebanon was occupied under similar circumstances that we are seeing today, only in 1982 it was the PLO launching attacks across the border. Israel has returned these lands in exchange for a peace deal - although this didn't work in the case of Lebanon and Gaza, and, as expected, the return of land just brought the frontlines closer to Israel.
Peace deals have worked with Egypt and Jordan.
