College Shooting In Montreal

[dmegametal#1]

the forum he visited was called vampirefreak.com..username trench..a local radio broadcast claims

[Metallifold]

How hard is it to understand that not everyone really listens to the music like we nerds do? Many of those bastards that watch horror movies and listens to heavy metal only does it because they think it's cool and strong, Because their Psychologically vulnerable.

Though, I will never accept that the mainstream think that the real heavy music listener, the one who's in it for the actual music, watches horror movies, steal candy from kids and kill people. I am a heavy music freak, and I hate horror movies, what's the point of getting scared? And I know a Lot of you agree with me on that one. I therfor think it's a shame that media makes out our great genre of music out to be a reason to something as idiotic as murderer.

[OutlawTorn81]

This is the biggest story to come out of Canada in a long time, I was watching everything unfold live yesterday and it was on CBC, CTV, local news, CNN, you name it. Very disturbing and heartbreaking to hear that innocent lives have been lost as a result and there are probably more to come. Last I heard there are still 8 people in very critical condition.

There was a story in the paper today about the history of gun violence emanating from Montreal. The most notorious of all was at the Ecole Politechnique in December 1989, in which a lunatic murdered 14 women. There have been others on a smaller scale, no less tragic, but this one is hugely disturbing news.

[Danallica]

I wasn't blaming metal and I don't think there is any way to read my post as doing that. What I was saying, was that metal (and horror films) seem to appear attractice to these kids who are seemingly filled with hatred, rage and feel so desperately isolated. Also, comparing to rap is flawed. Thoswe who shoort up rap concerts do so for simply for reasons of murder, drug deals gone bad etc. Contrastingly, as we are seeing and hearing, these kids who are shooting up schools and universities have serious mental and psychological issues with these feelings of rage etc. It is not simplistic muder or bad drug deals, it is deeper than that.

Finally, on schools. I do think it is the responsibility of schools and governments to provide emotionally stable, sheltering and nurturing environments. We currently live in countries (those of us in Aus, the US, Britain etc.) where over 30% of marriages end in divorce, many more than that are enduring though unhappy marriages. Much more pressure is now placed upon kids in schooling, and generally, people seem to give less of a fuck about others. Its all too easy for us Dan, who went to a good school and who come from good backgrounds to see it as all the fault or responsibility of parents. But does that mean that for those unlucky enough not to have supportive parents, to instead have abusive parents, alcoholic parents or drug addicted parents that well, fuck you and bad luck. This is sort of off topic (since all the facts about this kid haven;t come out yet) but if we look at past cases, too many had horid childhoods and came from greatly unstable families.

And personally, I think everything that can be done must be done to try and help these 'problem' kids as they are labelled now to rpevent these sort of incidents before they happen. I don't know how this would be done, but surely schools and governments have to get pro-active. Its been documented that there are numerous signs that can be seen, and often these kids are problem students and so maybe it is time to get beyond punishment, and start working with these kids, solve the problems rather than shunt them to the side out of view.

What i was getting at is why is it only metal that cops the blame for these incidents when rapper wankers murder people on a weekly basis, whether its to do with drug deals etc is probably a part, but dont you think that lyrics that insight people to kill would have a role when they go and kill people, just like those in metal do.

People who are so messed up that they get to the point where they could get a gun and kill others means that they should be in a friggin asylum anyway before hand. Mypoint is that these kind of things arent common and most peoplpe have some form of concious that tells them that killing people because of music isnt right.

The problem I have with schools getting involved in a kids life for reasons other than education, and doing things like providing shrinks on campus and stuff is that most kids would go to see the shrink for attention. Seriously, these days everyone thinks they have some mental problem, or are depressed, or stressed out, get over it ffs, we all have problems. Think of the people at our school who claimed to have mental problems, and I would bet you that the reason why they went around saying im fucked up with demons in my head is for attention, to make them feel special.

[psl86]

The biggest newspaper in Norway also has a picture of the killer doing the Metalsign with his fingers... It's really annoying how they all blame the metal music...

However, a very said news, this one

[Mr.Metal]

The media is really focusing a lot in his love for Heavy Metal...right now they are showing his pictures with Cradle of Filth's music on the background and showing pictures with his posters of Metallica, Nirvana, etc.

They have repeated many times that he LOVED heavy Metal, favourite bands "Metallica, Danzig, Maiden, Ozzy, Manson"

The girl that died was only 18...

[MetDream]

One of my "cyber friends" lives there. Her mother works there and her brother attends the school. He was nearby the students that were shot. How very scary for her and her family.

[dmegametal#1]

in the recent news on CNN...the guy was posing with a assault rifle in front of a wall with posters..IE:COF/Metallica-MOP/OZZY..and i don't think it has anything to do with metal??

mentality,psychology

[ret0dd]

Very sad.
Here comes another witch hunt

[Snow]

Couldn't agree more ret0dd. Just the type of publicity most metal bands do not want to be associated with. Remember Judas Priest and AC/DC getting slated?