Ntsc Question

[Sepu]

hi there.

I would like to rip an NTSC VHS with my Panasonic SA.
I tried to do it directly, but it doesn't work correctly, I've a big "line" in the under-part of the screen, like 5 cm.

I tried to read the VHS with my VCR on the TV, and it works fine.
So I though about do something like that:

VCR (can play NTSC on PAL TV)--> TV -->SCART-->SA

The problem is that I can see the VHS correctly on the TV, but the "rip" video has the problem that I said above.
Where is the problem? the TV can't send a correct PAL (or NTSC?) signal?
Maybe because the VHS is NTSC and not PAL...

Any idea it's appreciated.
Thanks
Chris

[Robertbeer]

Maybe your Panasonic SA can't read the NTSC video, are you sure if your NTSC video is on SP mode or is on LP? Some multiSystem vhs player can only play on SP.

If you can't solve the problem send me the vhs, i use ntsc format.


Good luck
Robert

[Pete-Rock]

Maybe your Panasonic SA can't read the NTSC video

That's what I would say aswell.

Your VHS player can do NTSC, as you can see on the correct picture of you TV - and that means that your TV can handle NTSC too. So there is only one device left - the Panasonic.

But... I must say that I find it hard to believe that this device cannot play/record NTSC. Did you check the manual?

Good luck
Peter

P.S. When everything works fine (someday ) I would recommend not to "detour" the signal through the TV, but to connect VHS and SA directly in case to not loose quality.

[Sepu]

I think my Panasonic won't record in NTSC mode, that's the main problem.

I don't know if it can play NTSC, but that isn't important.

[Breadfan_GER]

I think my Panasonic won't record in NTSC mode, that's the main problem.

I don't know if it can play NTSC, but that isn't important.

hm, if you cant fix it then play the video in your VHS recorder and film the TV screen with your DV Cam ... nah, any chance to record it on miniDV? i have no standalone so i copied some vhs to miniDV to get the material into the PC, but these times are over very very soon.

[Sepu]

I talked to a guy tha makes vide as job. He works for television too.

He told me that the "5cm lines" under the screen are correct because my SA will probably record on PAL.
The signal that arrives from the TV is PAL.

The only way to don't have these lines is to record it into NTSC, with an SA that can do that

[Sepu]

Update

Here are a few pics of the problems I have when recording on my Panasonic DVD.

http://www.sepu.ch/TEMP/PDVD_084.JPG
http://www.sepu.ch/TEMP/PDVD_085.JPG
http://www.sepu.ch/TEMP/PDVD_086.JPG

Seems that there is a problem of lines, between NTSC (480) and PAL (576), so, the PAL DVD miss some lines of the video.

I don't see a way to rip it correctly!

If my JVC VCR can play it correctly it's probably just because it will decode the signal from NTSC to PAL TV.
That's my idea.

Chris

[Sepu]

I learned a lot about this problem during these days.
I finally find out that the European VCR doesn't output a correctly NTSC signal, but a fake NTSC called "NTSC 4.43" or "PAL60".
So, this is a "format" with the frame size of the NTSC format (for example 720x480, 30fps) but the colors is 4.43 Mhz (PAL).

True NTSC is 3.58 Mhz and not 4.43.

This signal must be captured with the standard NTSC formats, but I didn't find a software where I can select the different colors Mhz.

So, finally the solutions are following:

-Buy a capture card that support PAL60 (if one exists..)
-Buy a multistandard VCR that can output correctly every signal
-Buy a converter between the different signals.

I just wanted to let you guzy read these informations.
Cheerz
Chris