The 2007/07 Cricket Ashes Thread

[Leighton]

Monumental Ponting fuck up if we don't win tomorrow. His captaincy only seems to ever benefit his performances. Lost the Ashes, lost to Bangladesh... and if he fucks this up then he'll start feeling heat from the press.

[Danallica]

^ Wrong. His decision to not enforce to follow on was stupid, but he is one of the most successful captains ever, a drawn test wont have any reprocussions on his captaincy, nor should it. Cricket Australia probably had something to do with the decision, they want the test to go for 5 days.

[Leighton]

^ Wrong. His decision to not enforce to follow on was stupid, but he is one of the most successful captains ever, a drawn test wont have any reprocussions on his captaincy, nor should it. Cricket Australia probably had something to do with the decision, they want the test to go for 5 days.

Losing the Ashes in the first place reflected his captaincy well in your opinion? Losing to Bagladesh didn't bother you either? Can you imagine a Steve Waugh led Aussies team losing to Bangla-fucking-desh? This guy isn't a pox on Waugh or Taylor. He continues to make these follow-on follies every series.

The Aussie cricket team is a media darling and I know he's not likely to be questioned directly, they'll get former captains to rock the boat at first, if he doesn't win this series he's finished as captain. The only thing to improve under his captaincy is Australia's losing column and his own personal averages. His day 4 and 5 in the fifth test last Ashes series was mind-boggling. Taking the light when you're losing a series... all because he didn't want to get out.

Hopefully he's done his back and Gilchrist can take over. Ponting doesn't deserve the acolade of winning the urn back.

[Danallica]

^ Wrong. His decision to not enforce to follow on was stupid, but he is one of the most successful captains ever, a drawn test wont have any reprocussions on his captaincy, nor should it. Cricket Australia probably had something to do with the decision, they want the test to go for 5 days.

Losing the Ashes in the first place reflected his captaincy well in your opinion? Losing to Bagladesh didn't bother you either? Can you imagine a Steve Waugh led Aussies team losing to Bangla-fucking-desh? This guy isn't a pox on Waugh or Taylor. He continues to make these follow-on follies every series.

The Aussie cricket team is a media darling and I know he's not likely to be questioned directly, they'll get former captains to rock the boat at first, if he doesn't win this series he's finished as captain. The only thing to improve under his captaincy is Australia's losing column and his own personal averages. His day 4 and 5 in the fifth test last Ashes series was mind-boggling. Taking the light when you're losing a series... all because he didn't want to get out.

Hopefully he's done his back and Gilchrist can take over. Ponting doesn't deserve the acolade of winning the urn back.

You obviously have some agenda against him in the first place, why, I dont know, but the fact that you dont like him tells me he is probably the best man for the job.

[Fadingtoblack]

Not enforcing the follow on was fine considering the state of the pitch - and considering the outcome - as I type McGrath just caught the last wicket.

Sure there's the possibility we could have had the test done in 4 days if we'd been able to bowl them out again straight away in the follow on, but I think by resting his bowlers and giving the team some room to move was a reasonable decision.


Also in my opinion it doesn't fall entirely to the Captain on how the team plays, they all played like shit against Bangladesh, and if they'd played that badly only with Waugh as Captain, the result would've been the same.


Anyway, on to Adelaide!

[Leighton]

You obviously have some agenda against him in the first place, why, I dont know, but the fact that you dont like him tells me he is probably the best man for the job.

"You don't like him, so I do." *Clap, clap*

Surely him batting on with injury and then tossing it in when fielding because of the same injury graphically points it out that the guy is only in it for his numbers. That's fine when you're not the captain. Gilchrist should have the C by his name cause Ponting isn't doing the right thing by the team, just himself.

Even the pontificating over his recent ICC triumph was funny considering his showing at the two before that as captain.

Got out of jail in this one. Those few wickets last night saved us. Ponting's mistake in letting the Poms back into this one could still come back to bite his arse given we're still in the same position as the last series.

[Danallica]

Listen to FTB you knob.

Match won easily, didnt get out of jail.

So tell me who won the first test of the ashes? and who is the captain of this team? and who scored 196? Yet somehow 'Ponting isn't doing the right thing by the team, just himself.'

You once again have no idea what you are talking about, well done.

[Leighton]

His decision to not enforce to follow on was stupid, but he is one of the most successful captains ever...

You said it yourself. It was stupid. Explain how losing the Ashes makes him one of the most successful captains ever.

BTW, he can score 196 without being capatain, as evidenced by him not bothering to field after batting yesterday. We've established where you thought his captaincy was stupid for this test, but I'll let you explain where his captaincy was effective. Or would you like to drop out of this discussion with a bit of name calling too?

[Danallica]

His decision to not enforce to follow on was stupid, but he is one of the most successful captains ever...

You said it yourself. It was stupid. Explain how losing the Ashes makes him one of the most successful captains ever.

BTW, he can score 196 without being capatain, as evidenced by him not bothering to field after batting yesterday. We've established where you thought his captaincy was stupid for this test, but I'll let you explain where his captaincy was effective. Or would you like to drop out of this discussion with a bit of name calling too?

I said it was a stupid decision, not that he is a stupid captian knob end. Learn to read, even a child can do that.

And yes he is one of the most successful captains ever, hes had something like 22 wins and 5 losses you fucktard, but just ingore the facts like always.

[Leighton]

Doesn't the captain make those declaration decisions, Dan? I read it fine. Feel free to answer my question on where you thought he has been effective in this series as a captain, BTW.

I'm sorry, but I don't measure success in anything other winning series. Ponting isn't doing that nearly as much as his previous captains did.