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[minus clover]

you know, i started this topic as a rant against the big day out organisers. silly me, i should have known the children would turn this into a racial hatred thread. danallica & leighton, you two are just adding fuel to an already divisive issue... AND ITS PISSING ME OFF!!!!!!

[Leighton]

Why was the flag discouraged (never banned, btw) at the BDO?

It was causing racial division.

Read the John Howard quote (about the flag so don't get scared) above and see who we should really blame for ruining the image of our flag. The answer is most definitely not the BDO organisers. They should be praised for trying to bring back an ounce of decency to what the flag (supposedly) represents.

[Danallica]

turn this into a racial hatred thread.

In fairness, thats really only me

[minus clover]

Why was the flag discouraged (never banned, btw) at the BDO?

It was causing racial division.

Read the John Howard quote (about the flag so don't get scared) above and see who we should really blame for ruining the image of our flag. The answer is most definitely not the BDO organisers. They should be praised for trying to bring back an ounce of decency to what the flag (supposedly) represents.

it was originally banned until everyone kicked up a huge stink (read that as the rsl & both sides of the political fence), then the bdo organisers really had no option but to backflip.


little johnny said it was "stupid & offensive" etc re the banning of the flag, and thats about the only thing i will ever agree with him on. as a former serving member of the australian army, i am offended that any aussie would want to ban our flag at an australian venue... regardless of where my ancestors came from, its still my flag and should not be banned anywhere in australia!!!!

[Leighton]

It wasn't ever banned, simply discouraged. The media just closed the gap for the masses. The fact that they only wanted it for the volatile Sydney area only shows just how serious they were in wanting it gone for the good of the crowd, not for the perceived anti-Australianism that knob Johnnie has made it out to be. People take it way too far, and the BDO didn't want to take the risk of being the scene of the next Cronulla riot.

If John Howard wants Australians to fly the flag, that's fine. But the guy has a history of associating it with extremist, racist, stupid and violent people. The BDO doesn't want that for the flag, Howard doesn't mind if it is. See my point? Surely you'd be even more in favour of the BDO's stance than me. I'm with the BDO, I don't want to be tied to those fuckwits simply because we have the same flag.

[Danallica]

So some people who listen to Metallica would part take in mob like racsist behaviour as well, will you stop listening to Metallica because it associates you with those people, of course not. It's kinda the same deal, very few people will see the Australian flag flying and think of violent racism.

[Leighton]

So some people who listen to Metallica would part take in mob like racsist behaviour as well, will you stop listening to Metallica because it associates you with those people, of course not. It's kinda the same deal, very few people will see the Australian flag flying and think of violent racism.

A laughable comparison considering I've 1) never seen anyone wrap themselves in Metallica paraphernalia as an excuse to bash people, 2) I'm forever tied to an idiot who wears the Australian flag simply because I am Australian, Metallica would be something a lot easier to keep to myself and subject me to little or no criticism (not that there's any need for that outside your little scenario here) and 3) Lars or the band would never go on TV afterwards and proclaim those idiots were just "proud" of Metallica, validating their actions in some kind of stupid, twisted logic that would explain why violence from one side is sweet when controlling violence from another. Everyone that saw or read Howard's words knows exactly what he meant about the Australian flag being used the way it was.

Anyway, try harder, Dan. A lot harder.

[Danallica]

So some people who listen to Metallica would part take in mob like racsist behaviour as well, will you stop listening to Metallica because it associates you with those people, of course not. It's kinda the same deal, very few people will see the Australian flag flying and think of violent racism.

Everyone that saw or read Howard's words knows exactly what he meant about the Australian flag being used the way it was.

What he said was true, no doubt he would some what enjoy what happened at Cronulla, I did, so did many others.

[Leighton]

What he said was true, no doubt he would some what enjoy what happened at Cronulla, I did, so did many others.

You're a sad person.

[Poolzer]

Stay on topic, respect each other or go somewhere else.

'nuff said.