Folks,
hey - I can say that it is really getting on my nerves how people in this board react on other peoples posts.
The best example is (without talking about any names) that there are some users who dont expect too much from the new album and find it necessary to post their opinion wherever possible. I truly understand that they are getting on other users nerves with that, BUT: What I dont understand is that those who feel provoked start fighting every time. You feel provoked by negative talking about Metallica? Here is the Pete-Rock-Formula against it: Just ignore those posts!!! Why always giving the people who provoke the chance to provoke even more??? That's nothing than arguing on the same level as the troublemaker.
There's always two persons needed for a conversation. The talker and the listener. But if there's no listener, there's no conversation. So if the talker talks negative about the band you love, but nobody listens, it's the same than no talk. Understand?
Just my two cents, but I felt that it is necessary to say that.
Cheers friends
Peter
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Dude, I totally understand that someone has lowered expectations for the new album, but why do those people feel the need to post it in every single thread?
I get's on my nerves, and I voiced my opinion about it - for the first time, just to make sure nobody misunderstands.
I get's on my nerves, and I voiced my opinion about it - for the first time, just to make sure nobody misunderstands.
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We have to understand that people have different opinions on the quality of Metallica's music of late, and the prospect of that quality in future.
Instead of getting annoyed at people who are being negative - engage them in discussion. Force them to provide support to their statements, and defend their position.
If they can't, well obviously they are just causing trouble, trying to get attention, and we can deal with that.
Don't sink to their level is what I'm getting at.
I mean this place would be pretty boring if we all thought the same thing about everything right?
Instead of getting annoyed at people who are being negative - engage them in discussion. Force them to provide support to their statements, and defend their position.
If they can't, well obviously they are just causing trouble, trying to get attention, and we can deal with that.
Don't sink to their level is what I'm getting at.
I mean this place would be pretty boring if we all thought the same thing about everything right?
As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University
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Re: Negative Talking About Metallica On Metpage
I totally get the "no listener, no conversation" thing... Sure, it get's on my nerves too, this constant ranting, may it be on the new album, Metallica since TBA or posts by other members, but everybody has the right to say his opinion and if it is for the 1000th time... you can be quite sure that those posts, as most of them are only written to provoke, will be one timers in most of the threads if nobody reacts to them, as then the fun of provoking is gone.
But I have to admit, sometimes I enjoy the little fights of our two most active gamecocks (no, I won't tell names
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But I have to admit, sometimes I enjoy the little fights of our two most active gamecocks (no, I won't tell names
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scottph
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Re: Negative Talking About Metallica On Metpage
You know perfectly well that Dantallica is not interested in arguments. All he does is state his opinion in every possible thread and that get's on my nerves. My point stands.Fadingtoblack wrote:We have to understand that people have different opinions on the quality of Metallica's music of late, and the prospect of that quality in future.
Instead of getting annoyed at people who are being negative - engage them in discussion. Force them to provide support to their statements, and defend their position.
If they can't, well obviously they are just causing trouble, trying to get attention, and we can deal with that.
Don't sink to their level is what I'm getting at.
I mean this place would be pretty boring if we all thought the same thing about everything right?![]()
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Metallifold
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I was going to NOT involve in discussions like this, but I gotta say this- When this is so pretty clearly directed toward an speficic individual, why don't you just take it with him instead of clouding it up and make it a collective punishment, Pete-Rock? Sure, Danallica is so negative I'd puge on him IRL, but I don't think things will change unless it's taken up with him specifically from many people ( not just only from Leighton' side ). Tell and show him that it is not appreciated and that you want him to change his approach, and I'm sure he'll adapt to it.
Different opinions are to be respected in the real world. But it shouln't necessarily be respected to rant a band time after time on a hardcore fan board. We are here because we like the band and still have faith in em. If someone here has lost the faith, why bother expressing that time after time ( eventhough he/she does know it'll get people upset )? It only creates problems and endless discussions so please keep that to yourself!
Different opinions are to be respected in the real world. But it shouln't necessarily be respected to rant a band time after time on a hardcore fan board. We are here because we like the band and still have faith in em. If someone here has lost the faith, why bother expressing that time after time ( eventhough he/she does know it'll get people upset )? It only creates problems and endless discussions so please keep that to yourself!
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Do I? And what happened to not naming names?scottph wrote:You know perfectly well that Dantallica is not interested in arguments. All he does is state his opinion in every possible thread and that get's on my nerves. My point stands.Fadingtoblack wrote: We have to understand that people have different opinions on the quality of Metallica's music of late, and the prospect of that quality in future.
Instead of getting annoyed at people who are being negative - engage them in discussion. Force them to provide support to their statements, and defend their position.
If they can't, well obviously they are just causing trouble, trying to get attention, and we can deal with that.
Don't sink to their level is what I'm getting at.
I mean this place would be pretty boring if we all thought the same thing about everything right?![]()
My opinion on certain members aside, what I said also still stands. Engage in discussion, encourage debate. Don't just sink to that level and egg them on. Even threads like this, while they might need to be said, is just giving them attention, which is what they want.
Anti-social behaviour can be and IS dealt with.
Thank you all for your input, I'll will take your concerns to the staff table, and see what we can do about responding to them.
In the meantime please all members set an example for how you yourself would like others to act, and as Pete-Rock said, if it annoys you, just ignore it, maybe they'll get bored and give it a rest
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