ok, the hard drive ones are attracting me for the fact that there is no need to change tapes, as for making masters of the recordings, i would just burn off an un edited version onto dvd, and keep that as the master
i would defintely want one with the 3ccd as you said, it has better quality
with the widescreen stuff, does it mean everything i tape is going to have black lines at the top and bottom? or is there a way to record in the 4:3 ratio? but u say 16:9 is the way everything is going, so im not really that fussed (plus i can edit it in a program and change the aspect in there)
yes i would like an image stabilizer, sounds like it would be handy
not really after high def, i have seen some prices on those and its just way out of my reach
ive looked on the sony website and im guessing this one here is a 3ccd
http://www.sony.com.au/dis/catalog/prod ... ryId=30727
and this one isnt?
http://www.sony.com.au/dis/catalog/prod ... ryId=30727
but one thing i have noticed with the hard drive ones is there is no eye piece, only the screen
i want an eye piece as i would be doing more stealth filming then open filming
hope that helps people out
Looking For A New Cam
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metallifreak27
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Re: Looking For A New Cam

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jarrur
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
-Native WS is anamorphic ws and it fills the screen.
-Your URLS where the same. But it only had 1 CCD when you guessed for 3.
-What comes to that HDD it has already encoded the film to Mpg2 where as MiniDV keeps the video uncompressed. So the Master is really a Master where as HDD Master is just unedited MPG2.
-The Eyepiece is dying. LCD Panels are taking over.
-Your URLS where the same. But it only had 1 CCD when you guessed for 3.
-What comes to that HDD it has already encoded the film to Mpg2 where as MiniDV keeps the video uncompressed. So the Master is really a Master where as HDD Master is just unedited MPG2.
-The Eyepiece is dying. LCD Panels are taking over.

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metallifreak27
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
sorry about the links
check this model out, i think this one is the 3ccd
DCRSR100
3M WIDESCREEN HDD HANDYCAM W/ 5.1 REC
$1,799.00
check this model out, i think this one is the 3ccd
DCRSR100
3M WIDESCREEN HDD HANDYCAM W/ 5.1 REC
$1,799.00

METALLICA WORLD MAGNETIC AUSTRALIA TOUR 2010
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October
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November
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18/20/21 Melbourne
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jarrur
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
Again only 1CCD. Seems that Sony doesn't make 3CCD models for HDD.
Hope my tips helped you to make your mind.
Hope my tips helped you to make your mind.

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metallifreak27
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
i think im going to go for a mini DV one that has 3ccd, and a output/input for an external mic
thats the 2 main things i will look for, the image stabilizer/widescreen, etc, etc i think if it has it, bonus, if not, badluck
cheers for the help then
thats the 2 main things i will look for, the image stabilizer/widescreen, etc, etc i think if it has it, bonus, if not, badluck
cheers for the help then

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15/16 Melbourne
18 Sydney
October
16/18/19 Brisbane
22/23 Perth
November
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15/16 Adelaide
18/20/21 Melbourne
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Metfan91_
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
For everyone who uses camcorders, what kind should i buy mini dv or dvd, the reason im asking is because im looking for good picture and sound quality so that i can record concerts!!!
thanks
thanks
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2019.09.06 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
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Metallica shows I've attended:
2008.11.01 Portland, Or Rose Garden
2008.12.01 Seattle, Wa Key Arena
2012.08.24 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.25 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.27 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2017.08.09 Seattle, Wa Century Link Stadium
2018.11.28 Boise, ID Taco Bell Arena
2018.12.02 Spokane, Wa Spokane Arena
2018.12.05 Portland, Or Moda Center
2019.09.06 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2019.09.08 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2021.12.17 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
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Pete-Rock
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
Here's a simple but often forgotten hint:
MiniDV is kind of a tape so it is less irritable to shaking and touching and whatever what usually happens on concerts. With a DVD the laser is writing to the disc as you film and so it is more irritable to any kind of shaking. Of course DVD cams have buffer or cache memory but I wont say that this can avoid errors on your disc.
So maybe it depends on where you are while you film. The more close you are to the stage the more I would say buy miniDV.
MiniDV is kind of a tape so it is less irritable to shaking and touching and whatever what usually happens on concerts. With a DVD the laser is writing to the disc as you film and so it is more irritable to any kind of shaking. Of course DVD cams have buffer or cache memory but I wont say that this can avoid errors on your disc.
So maybe it depends on where you are while you film. The more close you are to the stage the more I would say buy miniDV.
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jarrur
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
Then it's MiniDV if you are looking for quality (...or why not Digital8), but that's not all.
After you have devided what format etc etc.. checkout this threat
After you have devided what format etc etc.. checkout this threat

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BMR
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
DVD cam if you want to take it as "fun and easy" filming, poor results and no chances for future transfers/edits.
DV is the choice.
DV is the choice.
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Re: Looking For A New Cam
Thanks every one for your advice im going to go and get a jvc min dv one today!
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Metallica shows I've attended:
2008.11.01 Portland, Or Rose Garden
2008.12.01 Seattle, Wa Key Arena
2012.08.24 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.25 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.27 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2017.08.09 Seattle, Wa Century Link Stadium
2018.11.28 Boise, ID Taco Bell Arena
2018.12.02 Spokane, Wa Spokane Arena
2018.12.05 Portland, Or Moda Center
2019.09.06 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2019.09.08 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2021.12.17 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2021.12.19 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
Metallica shows I've attended:
2008.11.01 Portland, Or Rose Garden
2008.12.01 Seattle, Wa Key Arena
2012.08.24 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.25 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2012.08.27 Vancouver, BC Rogers Arena
2017.08.09 Seattle, Wa Century Link Stadium
2018.11.28 Boise, ID Taco Bell Arena
2018.12.02 Spokane, Wa Spokane Arena
2018.12.05 Portland, Or Moda Center
2019.09.06 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2019.09.08 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2021.12.17 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center
2021.12.19 San Francisco, Ca Chase Center