The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread

[sacha]

You are 100% correct Elmoz.... but im an intelligent guy that just doesnt understand why a Metallica fan would not want to trade a Metallica show with other very experienced fans

because maybe they were asked not to trade by the guy they got it from and they would respect that persons decision a good example is with gothenburg 87 1st gen people have this yet the few with it were asked not to trade it out per the tapers request which is why most people have to respect that (i personally repsect that and i think others should as well ) no matter how bad myself or anyone might want the video in that quality.

There is another thing with that specific show, the guy that has it spent a lot of money to get it... then saying not to trade the show it is really misplaced...

[Cjlcooter]

i understand that but does it really matter if someone has paid 1 cent for it or $1000 for it ?..if the guy they got it from told them the only way for you to get this item from them is not to trade it, (most people should respect it and not ask questions about it) ..this happens more then people really realize there is several people from in this very forum who read alot and do not post alot, some of these people have been sitting on these things for a minimum of 10 + years and the reason why they don't trade it out is out of the respect & promise they made to the guy they got it from whether they got it yesterday or 15 years ago,

no matter how much time goes by these people will not trade or talk about what they have openly with just anyone the unreleased stuff that comes out is because there are people who are persistant and keep on searching and do not give up thats how i found the detroit 86 show, (i was persistant & always looking for it)

i do also hope letting it out will open doors for other stuff to come out (from other people) that is not out from 83-89 that is unreleased.. this is not directed towards anyone just my input, people who know me & who i know who has some of this stuff are dying to share this stuff with everyone but some stuff they just cannot let out no matter what.. (also the quiet ones are not the only ones who are sitting on stuff)

Chris

[norbinho]

You are 100% correct Elmoz.... but im an intelligent guy that just doesnt understand why a Metallica fan would not want to trade a Metallica show with other very experienced fans

you're definitely right, man!! unfortunately i have 2 shows listed NFT on my trading page, but not, because of me, but because the trader requested it...i hope i can trade these ones soon!!!

[ChristophFe]

However, what I want to know is, how about the shows from for example 2003/2004 or 2006 Shows?
What is the matter here to make or keep those shows NFT? - I don't care about the old ones, that is not my job to get some of them or something... that is for trader, who are in the scene for a long time... not for a newbie, like me

I think a lot of the tapers never grew up actually... some of them behave really childish! But how to change them? I don't know, because often you talk with them like you have to with little kids and in the end it does not help anything.

If all would behave like them, there would be no trading scene... just a tape - for - yourself scene! And that is why I don't think we should support that!

Now the 2007 Shows are done, some of us have recorded stuff and I think a lot of us here want to see these shows also and enjoy them! If all the taper here would behave like some hoarder, we won't see a lot of shows this year... in fact, then I could also not share my recordings...

I want to get some of you think also about the newer taped shows! it is now also not alot different than years before (ok the cams are smaller) but although you need some guys to tape and to step up! I did not enjoyed the shows as much as many others did, because I had to hold my hand up in the air for 2 and a half hours during the show... a lot of tapers want the shows from the other guys, but they will not share their own... and that is what makes me really pissed! Young and Old ones!

How should I be able to tape a show in 1991, when I was only 5 year old? But now, since I am grown Up and able to get to the shows alone, I can do something for the community and give something back! It's cool for me to see shows from the past, where I was not able to attend those shows, and now since there was again a Europe Tour, I could record some and I will share them with the others. A lot of have guys have understand how the system works, but there are enough black sheeps left! It is a taking and giving act, of course now the europeans are more questioned, because of 2 tours in Europe here, but soon also the other continents need guys to tape shows... so we in europe can see those shows also... you know what I mean

Why not trying it this way? Trader who set shows NFT and don't share with others, should be man enough not to lay their hands on other tapers shows... so they only have what they deserve, their own shows... haha that will never work, how should it

if the community really changes in its worse way, I can not promise, if I would ever tape a show again, next year or something!

[Sats]

I think like you too my frind, iam a korn trade in first line, and its damm hard this year to get the 2007 stuff, most of the tapers reord his first bootleg ever and they all keep it NT.
I cant understand it, cause bootlegin is just a hobby.
But i also understand them, cause we (the korn tapers/traders) have too much fuck faces in our commonuty, when we trade out just one rare show to someone from east europ (where the most korn traders are from) after a few weeks everyone have it. that sucks.

You are weird man , you are against NFT until you dont have that show hu? LOL You wrote it yourself, trading is hobby so why it sucks when shows are spread to everybody? Main problem is thinking in KoRn trading comunity. There are lot of things that sucks in KoRn trading comunity.
And it is NOT problem only with people from eastern europe, lot of people (that are not good in geography) could think that i am in eastern europe too so i must say that the main problem in korn trading comunity is not eastern part of europe but mentalitiy of the most of korn traders. I started to collect korn shows but i was pissed off very fast because of some traders around there. I was said that only way how to get the show is to buy it and simillar bullshits. I understand NFT for some time that is because taper wants to get some other good shows for his/her work but... no sense to repeat it again and again
Simply: Fuck off NFT!!!

[oip]

ChristophFe, +1!!!

[norbinho]

there should be more guys around here who think like christophfe!!!

[norbinho]

I understand NFT for some time that is because taper wants to get some other good shows for his/her work but... no sense to repeat it again and again
Simply: Fuck off NFT!!!

i agree with your last sentence...NFT from the taper for some time so that he's able to trade his recording for shows he wants to have...but i don't like lists of some traders where a lot of shows are NFT listed or if you contact one and suddenly the show you wanted to trade appears to be NFT.

[fey-metallica]

However, what I want to know is, how about the shows from for example 2003/2004 or 2006 Shows?
What is the matter here to make or keep those shows NFT?

These newer shows are in most cases NFT because of egoism, people who think they had to work hard for their recording (which is true of course) and not going to share it for that reason. I really hated it when I noticed the first Metallica show I attended was filmed by two guys and neither one of them traded their recordings without, in my eyes, a descent reason. That would make me post stuff like fuck NFT too..

What I want to add to this is that it's very easy to start bashing NFT rules without knowing the facts behind the person who does it. My opinion is that traders who put NFT or RT on a recently released and still uncommon recording without a notification from the taper suck.

On the other hand there are actually people who hoard with a, again in my opinion, descent reason, like a few of the early (and also unknown early 90's shows) were taped for the band. I can fully understand that those won't release their recording because metpage or freakin britneyspears forum begs for releasing it or makes a statement about those people should be banned. Boards that are filled with mainly people who follow a band or board for a couple of years and then go a different direction for whatever reason (or just collect shows to get an impressive list without listening/watching even 10% of it), while their promise stands for a longer period.

Once again, when I still traded and watched those slipknot or any well known nft/rt community tradelists I thought it sucked a lot and I still think that way. But not everybody is taping for a community who demand all recordings should be released.

[Sabkissmet]

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