"upgrading" My Audio Recording Equipment

[Duane]

Not to rehash this old agruement but if the md's are lossless, that means there are literally hundreds of Metallica recordings made with md's and there are all lossy then. Sounds like a lot of lists have to get updated.

[Yverish]

Anyone familiar with the iRiver H320? One is offering that one for €130 as well, and there is rockbox firmware available for it, so it would record lossless then, right?

[Pete-Rock]

Not to rehash this old agruement but if the md's are lossless, that means there are literally hundreds of Metallica recordings made with md's and there are all lossy then. Sounds like a lot of lists have to get updated.

Yes, this is nothing but the truth. Hundreds of lists needed to get updated. If one makes a mistake and hundreds of people copy it, then it is becoming the truth? You could not really mean that. The MD is lossy!!! No doubt about that.

[Thierry]

The NH600 doesn't have a line-in with volume control, so that one is not an option. Your sample of the NH700 sounds good (mics play a big part in it though), can you set the volume of the line-in during recording?

You definately need a HI-MD recorder (which I have too) - with a mic-in option, so you can arrange the recordingvolume.

Can you tell me which Hi-MD recorder you have? Is it easy to transfer the recorded files from the MD to your pc?

I can get an almost new (as in used 2 times for recording an interview) Sony MZ-NH700, the same as Duane has, for €130. (This one: HERE) Now I need to talk to my parents into paying a bit of it too

I have got the NH700 it records as wav too (90 minutes on one 1 GB HI-MD disc). It's a great recorder, which makes quite good recordings.

[CreepingDave]

Anyone familiar with the iRiver H320? One is offering that one for €130 as well, and there is rockbox firmware available for it, so it would record lossless then, right?

The H320 may be a later model, I think people use it to tape as well, but its not so common. The HD maybe bigger, which is a good thing but im not 100% on the difference between the 120 and the 320, but it has to be better right?? 130 euros seems like quite a nice price for it.

Just looked on taperssection, a topic from June, some one was selling it for $130 so 130 euros should be good.

In the thread someone asked what the difference between them and another said:

"you can't go digital with the 320; 120 is monochrome and 320 is color; 320 lcd is off after some time so you can't check levels without pushing a button and with 120 all is in the screen even without the backlight...Besides that, they are very similar."

I don't think the digital recording is all that important for what we're doing, im not 100%, but thats for like doing purely digital transfers from analog sources or radio broadcasts.


About the Minidisc, sure its lossy, but its not quite as bad as mp3 lossy. I decided to upgrade anyway, but to each their own- I have a couple of MD recordings which don't look all that lossy either.

[Yverish]

Thanks for your input Dave. I still might be going for a new Hi-MD recorder, because of having a solid back-up after taping. I'm feeling a bit the same about my HDD videocam. The only back-up you have is on HDD and DVD no DV-tapes to fall back on. So with Hi-MD, you'd still be able to re-transfer them when your HDD crashes and the CD's are scratched (worst scenario of course).

[CreepingDave]

Yes I understand what your saying, i've had some scares with my HDD in the past and it can be a bit of a worry!

[M4ST3R M1K3]

Well for me lossless means no loss compared to the original source.
In my opinion, technically speaking, lossless recording (not lossless storage) means nothing. Even DAT make lossly recordings. Indeed the mic doesn't record the full frequency spectrum, even at 96khz some sound information are lost,...
I recorded Rock Am Ring 2003 & 2006 broadcasted on MTV (digital satellite receiver -> analog output -> soundcard -> wav). I couldn't do better than that. But the audio feed was MP2. So the feed was lossy and my recording was lossless. On my bootleg list they are listed as lossless.
In the bootleg world, the definition of lossless is even more vague. Indeed high gen cassettes are considered as lossless but you don't have to be an expert to understand the sound is not the same than the master.
My definition of a lossless bootleg would be: A recording with no lossy psychoacoustic compression in the lineage between the source and the final storage.

[aeiseleusa]

A question about Sony MD player. Can you transfer a recording you made with the analog line in directly to the PC or do you have to transfer it analog over the headphone out ?? I read somewhere Sony will not let you transfer captured stuff back to the computer via USB ?? If that is the case I wont buy an MD.
Thnaks !!

[Yverish]

A question about Sony MD player. Can you transfer a recording you made with the analog line in directly to the PC or do you have to transfer it analog over the headphone out ?? I read somewhere Sony will not let you transfer captured stuff back to the computer via USB ?? If that is the case I wont buy an MD.
Thnaks !!

In the past Sony let you upload stuff from your MD only twice. Nowadays the uploads are unlimited and through USB