Too Sexy For The Plane?

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Too Sexy For The Plane?

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Too Sexy for the Plane?

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A second woman says Southwest Airlines didn’t approve of her outfit; she spent the flight wrapped in a blanket. What does the airline have to say about this cover-up?
By David Koenig, AP


Have airline employees replaced high-school deans as the arbiters of appropriate dress, or have skimpily-clad passengers forced flight attendants to act like Mother?

A second young woman has come forward to claim that Southwest Airlines Co. employees made her cover up on a recent flight.

Setara Qassim told KNBC-TV in Los Angeles that a flight attendant confronted her during the trip from Tucson, Ariz., to Burbank, Calif., and asked if she had a sweater to go over her green halter-style dress.

Qassim, 21, said she was forced to wrap a blanket around herself for the rest of the flight. She complained that if Southwest wants passengers to dress a certain way, it should publish a dress code.

Last week, 23-year-old Kyla Ebbert said a Southwest employee pulled her aside as she was preparing to board a plane departing San Diego for Tucson in July and told her she was dressed too provocatively to fly on the plane.

Ebbert, who took her case to NBC's Today Show, said she was allowed on the plane, but only after adjusting her sweater and short skirt. She said she was humiliated and felt the stares of other passengers who had overheard the verbal dressing-down.

Southwest acknowledged the incident involving Ebbert, but airline spokesman Chris Mainz said the company had no record that Qassim ever complained.

Mainz said Dallas-based Southwest—which dressed its stewardesses in hot pants and called itself "the love airline" back in the 1970s—relies on employees to decide if a passenger's attire may offend other customers.

"We don't have a dress code. We rely on our employees to use common sense, good judgment and good taste," Mainz said. "It's so rare for us to have to address a customer's clothing issue."

American Airlines claims the right to refuse to carry passengers for a variety of reasons including being drunk, barefoot, having an offensive odor or being "clothed in a manner that would cause discomfort or offense to other passengers."

"It's generally a graphic on a T-shirt that might be uncomfortable" to another passenger, said American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner. "We always find ways to mitigate it as best as possible, with not allowing someone on a flight being the last option."

David Castelveter, spokesman for the Air Transport Association, the trade group of the major U.S. airlines, said he didn't know of any airline having a dress code.

Lynda White, who teaches etiquette classes and calls herself "The First Lady of Manners," said many young people have gotten lax on what to wear and how to act—possibly influenced by Hollywood stars. She recommends "business-casual" outfits for the plane because you might be seated next to a potential employer or business contact.

"If you wear provocative clothing, tattoos, or you smell of alcohol or cigarettes, who's going to believe you?" she said.
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Re: Too Sexy For The Plane?

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She looked fine to me. Living near Detroit I see a lot of women who should put on more clothes. Or at least the right size. But the woman they wouldn't let on the plane looked fine to me. You see people everyday wearing a lot less. The second woman though never said anything until the other woman came forward. So she seems like a gold digger and who knows if she's really telling the truth or BS'ing to get some easy $.
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i think if that woman bent over, everyone would be able to see what she had for breakfast... not a good look... and maybe that was the issue. a couple of extra inches to the length of a skirt never killed anyone (except me when i was in high school, but thats another story).
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Can I post pictures of chicks with provoking clothes and discuss?
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Jerk news story originating from a jerk airline. If I were a woman I would boycott Southwest Airlines for trying to tell me what I can and cannot wear.
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Re: Too Sexy For The Plane?

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Kat wrote:
minus clover wrote: i think if that woman bent over, everyone would be able to see what she had for breakfast... not a good look... and maybe that was the issue. a couple of extra inches to the length of a skirt never killed anyone (except me when i was in high school, but thats another story).
Hunh? Are you actually saying the airline is right and that girl having been dressed to provocative? That skirt is perfectly fine with legs like that! And if she actually bent over and you can see what she had for breakfast... well, maybe it was something yummy and nice too see... I can't believe reading something like that coming from a woman...

Just my 2 cents, but I have that theory women saying other women dress like sluts or too provocative are just jealous or don't have enough self confidence to go out in a dress like that. Personally I couldn't care less how little someone wears. If a person decides to walk around naked, so what? I am free to look away if I don't like what I see.

And for once I have to agree with OutlawTorn, an airline acting like that should be boycotted :ninja:
i have been on the receiving end of airline clothing discrimination (delta sucks!!) i'm sorry but i really do not want to see other womens fannies hanging out the bottom of their skirts, same as i dont want to see mens schlongers hanging out the leg of their shorts. if my daughter went out dressed like that i would kick her butt, however her friends can wear whatever they like as they arent my damned kids.

say what you like, i definitely do not lack self confidence and no way am i jealous... i was young once and dressed probably more provocatively (but that was the late 70's/early 80's and it was expected of us)... to be my age now and get around in metal shirts and predominately black clothing... when you're old and decrepit like me then see how you are...
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Re: Too Sexy For The Plane?

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Kat wrote:
minus clover wrote: i'm sorry but i really do not want to see other womens fannies hanging out the bottom of their skirts, same as i dont want to see mens schlongers hanging out the leg of their shorts. if my daughter went out dressed like that i would kick her butt, however her friends can wear whatever they like as they arent my damned kids.
:lol: Well, if the fannies are hanging out the bottom of a skirt, the skirt either is a belt or the fanny is beyond being nice to look at :lol: But a skirt like that girl had is nothing close to that, just a normal mini skirt, IMO... but opinions are like assholes B)
say what you like, i definitely do not lack self confidence and no way am i jealous... i was young once and dressed probably more provocatively (but that was the late 70's/early 80's and it was expected of us)... to be my age now and get around in metal shirts and predominately black clothing... when you're old and decrepit like me then see how you are...
I don't say I wear clothes like that, but only because I don't think they look good on me... I just don't give a flying f**k what other people wear or am as cocky (although some people around here think I am ;) ) to tell people to dress differently just it is not to my liking.

But back on topic, seeing you say you have been on the receiving end of discrimination, did you get told to get another dress to be able to take a flight? I have never heard of anyone being treated like that here in Europe and I just don't get it... Even less the "family airline" part, like I said.
lol, i wouldnt be seen dead in a dress... but anyway... the swine to whom i'm unfortunately still married worked for delta, so i would get free travel within the US, and i could travel business class as long as i dressed to their standards. the day my daughter and i were coming back to australia, we fronted to the boarding counter in anchorage, alaska, and checked in. then i noticed that the "nice" pants i was wearing had a tear in the seat, so i went to the bathroom and changed into jeans (which i was going to do when we got to los angeles anyway). the woman at the boarding counter noticed and told me that as i was flying as a dependent of an employee, that i had to dress the part, or be bumped back to economy. i pointed out to her that as i was going to be stuck in planes and airports for almost 48 hours, that i would prefer to be comfortable. she didnt like that, neither did hubby, so i chose to fly economy. didnt matter that almost everyone else travelling business class that day was dressed in jeans and tshirts...
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