The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread

[Cjlcooter]

you must stop with the excuse that you made an agreement with someone not to trade it. In all the years of collecting, ive never been told you can have so and so but you must keep it to yourself.

it is not a a excuse it is what was asked of me (so i will abide by it and you and many others will have to just learn to accept it ) i will not betray or fuck over or risk losing a friend or VIP contact just to make a few people happy, other people need to learn and respect a persons wishes when they are asked not to trade something.

[Sabkisscrue]

you must stop with the excuse that you made an agreement with someone not to trade it. In all the years of collecting, ive never been told you can have so and so but you must keep it to yourself.

it is not a a excuse it is what was asked of me (so i will abide by it and you and many others will have to just learn to accept it ) i will not betray or fuck over a friend or VIP contact just to make a few people happy, other people need to learn and respect a persons wishes when they are asked not to trade something.

Please tell your contact that I personally think hes a dick.

[Cjlcooter]

Please tell your contact that I personally think hes a dick.

Matt you seem to be missing the whole point of what "respecting a persons wishes" means
the reason why more unreleased shows are not out is because there is a "MAJOR" lack of disrespect towards respecting a persons wishes,

the bottom line is whenever someone trades you something, sells you something gives you something and says to you i will send you this or sell you this or give you this "only if you do not trade it out" you have got to learn to respect that persons decision, no matter if it was "LARS" or the "PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES" or the "FILMER" who told you this you need to do what is asked of you no questions asked.

you do not go and let a unreleased show out or shows you were asked not to let out just to fuck over, betray, or stab your friend or friends in the back just make some people happy "you have really got to learn understand and respect this decision"

[Sabkisscrue]

you seem to be missing the whole point of what "respecting a persons wishes" means
the reason why more unreleased shows are not out is because there is a "MAJOR" lack of disrespect towards respecting a persons wishes,

Why do you feel you need to explain to me about what I need to respect? I have no reason to respect you or your source. Neither of you have given me anything and what I get from you is a lot of hearsay. But nothing else. Who is your source and what has he sourced?

the bottom line is whenever someone trades you something, sells you something gives you something and says to you i will send you this or sell you this or give you this "only if you do not trade it out" you have got to learn to respect that persons decision, no matter if it was "LARS" or the "PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES" or the "FILMER" who told you this you need to do what is asked of you no questions asked.

Again, I dont know why you are explaining this to me like im some newbie trader. Ive dealt with a lot of filmers and I doubt you have. Im gonna say that again. Ive dealt with a lot of filmers and I doubt you have. Because I dont think i've ever heard from a filmer, you can never trade this or sell this or whatever. Ive bought a lot of stuff from filmers. I still am buying shows from time to time. I still trade with filmers. I dont claim to be a video expert either and I dont know why on earth im arguing with you when you provide me with nothing.

you do not go and let a unreleased show out or shows you were asked not to let out just to fuck over, betray, or stab your friend or friends in the back just make some people happy "you have really got to learn understand and respect this decision"

So translating, what you're asking everyone to do is respect your decision to not discuss, to not trade something, when no one should have to do that. Why should we respect your decision? What is so special about this source?

[Sabkisscrue]

Please tell your contact that I personally think hes a dick.

Matt you seem to be missing the whole point of what "respecting a persons wishes" means
the reason why more unreleased shows are not out is because there is a "MAJOR" lack of disrespect towards respecting a persons wishes,

Let me also point out that along with Ron, we've released a lot of unreleased shows, shows that arent in circulation. New versions, new sources, huge upgrades to existing sources and ill go so far to say probably the best quality Metallica shows out there and you're using a sentence like "this is the reason why more unreleased shows are not out there". When in fact these shows have coming out for a while now and will continue to come out. Again, your friend is a dick.

[Frantic Canadian]

I'm sorry I don't mean to jump in here to argue but I really don't see the point of hoarding shows. Now I'm not talking about you Cjlcooter, I'm talking about the filmers themselves who don't want what they've filmed released. I can understand if a band doesn't want a bootleg of a show released because they're planning on releasing it officially but a fan should want to release it so others can enjoy it as well, if not to give him some recognition as well. I'm sure they've come across shows that they wish others would release so why turn around and do the same thing themselves?

[Sabkisscrue]

I'm sorry I don't mean to jump in here to argue but I really don't see the point of hoarding shows. Now I'm not talking about you Cjlcooter, I'm talking about the filmers themselves who don't want what they've filmed released. I can understand if a band doesn't want a bootleg of a show released because they're planning on releasing it officially but a fan should want to release it so others can enjoy it as well, if not to give him some recognition as well. I'm sure they've come across shows that they wish others would release so why turn around and do the same thing themselves?

Its Cjlcooter and whoever his source is that don't want these so called unreleased shows traded. Filmers in general don't care.

[Frantic Canadian]

I'm sorry I don't mean to jump in here to argue but I really don't see the point of hoarding shows. Now I'm not talking about you Cjlcooter, I'm talking about the filmers themselves who don't want what they've filmed released. I can understand if a band doesn't want a bootleg of a show released because they're planning on releasing it officially but a fan should want to release it so others can enjoy it as well, if not to give him some recognition as well. I'm sure they've come across shows that they wish others would release so why turn around and do the same thing themselves?

Its Cjlcooter and whoever his source is that don't want these so called unreleased shows traded. Filmers in general don't care.

Well then I don't see the reasoning behind it. If the filmer is cool with letting his privately shot bootleg out then why should anyone else who gets a copy refuse to trade it? I mean it's not like they're giving up their own copy.

[metalfex]

i usually wouldnt do this but since this is the right thread.... the people hoarding the mexico city 1993 video (and im talking about people on this forum who have it and haven't told us they have it) this is for you "WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU DICKS???" James Hetfield

[MetDream]

Well then I don't see the reasoning behind it. If the filmer is cool with letting his privately shot bootleg out then why should anyone else who gets a copy refuse to trade it? I mean it's not like they're giving up their own copy.

Well, there are some serious collectors who have gone to great lengths and expense and years of work to track down and acquire to "rare" shows. I can understand wanting to hold onto it for a bit to trade those shows for something equally as hard to obtain. But to keep it NFT, yeah I don't really understand that mentality.

But you see, there are some who thrive on the notoriety and the platitudes they get when they release a show that has been horded forever. They get much gratification from the attention they receive when they tease others with the goodies they have stored. I don't get it myself as a bootleg is a bootleg and once a "rare" gem is released to the community then it becomes just another bootleg. But then I guess that minute is the sun, and the momentary fame received from releasing it is somehow a perk.

Thank goodness for guys like Mat who obtain good quality master and 1st gens and release them to the community.