Cassette Tapes=lossy?

[dmegametal#1]

why do my cassettes converting makes people think that they are lossy ???

when the you convert a cassette in wave format that they are lossless..depending on the tape quality right???

why would a cassette tape be lossy???

adobe audition>>HD>>

[sorrowman]

I made a remark about that the other day didn't I.

A direct transfer from tape to HD isn't lossy. However I believe you applied filters or noise reduction on that particular show and perhaps on others as well, and from experience of working with Audition and other audio editing suites I know applying filters sometimes generates artifacts when they're being pushed too far (kinda strange blurby background sounds similar to low-bitrate lossy formats) The thing with the these filters is they don't just affect the noise you want to remove, but if pushed to hard they'll also remove bits and pieces of frequencies you want keep, making it sound lossy. The difference was quite hearable IMHO when you uploaded a sample of the original raw recording and the same piece except with filers applied. The original raw recording didn't have those artifacts, while sample with noise-reduction/filters applied did in fact have them. I in fact preferred the raw material over the version wirth noise reduction, depite the fact that some more tape-hiss/ was hearable.

My guess is your transfers aren't lossy or anything, but you may have just pushed it too far with the the filters/noise reduction. Try and mess with those settings a bit and you'll prolly be able to remove/reduce unwanted noise and background sounds without fucking up the audio itself.

Obviously you also sometime turn them into a lossy format yourself afterwards by converting them to MP3 and then seeding them

[dmegametal#1]

Obviously you also sometime turn them into a lossy format yourself afterwards by converting them to MP3 and then seeding them

i know..because i have limited bandwith because i am being metered by my ISP!!!

I in fact preferred the raw material over the version wirth noise reduction, depite the fact that some more tape-hiss/ was hearable.

well..at least you don't mind the raw conversions..most people would bitch about too much tape hiss and want them with NO hiss at all...which is impossible..

[sorrowman]

Obviously you also sometime turn them into a lossy format yourself afterwards by converting them to MP3 and then seeding them

i know..because i have limited bandwith because i am being metered by my ISP!!!

I not blaming you for that or anything bro but the show I was talking about was an early rather short show which you did in fact seed as FLAC files...and despite that they sounded kinda lossy to me....because of the filters you applied...I'm assuming.

Also, I'm not saying you shouldn't attempt to clean it at all, just that perhaps with some more messing with the filter settings a better compromise could be reached in that some hiss could prolly be removed without it affecting the music

[Duane]

I've ran into this problem exactly. I transfered one of master cassettes (Alice Cooper) I believe. The guy who wanted it specified no lossy recordings. I guaranteed this because I transfered it from cassette to the hd, but I didn't realize the noise cut/equalizer thingy I used on Nero made the .wav look like an mp3. The guy whined a bit then I had to retransfer the recording and send him the raw .wav, he was then happy. Now every master I transfer I don't fiddle with anything at all....just the raw show.

[dmegametal#1]

right now i have Goldwave..and Adobe Audition(trial version 30days--only have 7 days left)

then i have to red0 all of my tapes again..

also when converting them to FLAC..i have taper little helper and have the encoder set at 0

[sorrowman]

Good results are possible with filters and noise reduction, but it may take some time to figure out what settings work best on a particular recording. The presets included in such programms as Audition just don't work very well when it comes down to cleaning up a bootleg recording.

[dmegametal#1]

Good results are possible with filters and noise reduction, but it may take some time to figure out what settings work best on a particular recording. The presets included in such programms as Audition just don't work very well when it comes down to cleaning up a bootleg recording.

just release them in RAW format/single file..and let them split and do what ever they want with the recordings then!!!

[sorrowman]

ye....I guess that'd be nice too. spread the raw and untouched recordings and let those who feel like it have their way with it in terms of cleaning it up.

[dmegametal#1]

ye....I guess that'd be nice too. spread the raw and untouched recordings and let those who feel like it have their way with it in terms of cleaning it up.

i am going to try later..with the Osaka Japan 17/5/1989 show..release it in a single files RAW..which is a 3 parter..little over a GB