Typical... When Dubya came here (the same day as Metallica playing in 2004), they closed off most of the main roads and make us go half way around the world to get home.
My father is a journalist and he had to drive to a designated town, and be brought with otehr journalists by bus to where the Press Conferance. He was searched to the max, and was only allowed bring his camera and a notepad (not even a pen, they would be provided supposedly). And he only got to the Laura Bush.. Its crazy that common spectators weren't even searched when members of the press here were searched so rigorously...
Obama Vs Clinton
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slayerdiabolus
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2003 - Dublin. 2004 - Donington, Dublin. 2006 - Donington. 2007 - Live Earth, Wembley. 2008 - Dublin, London. 2009 Milan, Rome, Dublin
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Pete-Rock
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Damn, Clinton won OH and TX, the race gets even more close....
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OutlawTorn81
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Of the two I prefer Clinton. Obama's majorly put his foot in his mouth when it comes to NAFTA, done as a cheap ploy to prey on the public paranoia about Mexico (thanks to the demagogue Lou Dobbs et al. on CNN), but something that isn't actually meant to be taken seriously. US trade with Canada is about $1.4 billion per day, and a lot of what comes to the US from Canada is stuff that a lot of folks who are unscrupulous about liberal principles like free trade would just love to slap a huge levy or tariff on. Remember, Barack, Canada's your #1 source of imported oil, so if you want to take out NAFTA be prepared to pay a major price.
I also think that Clinton trumps him when it comes to the commander-in-chief aspects of the job. I have a hard time taking the rhetoric of either candidate seriously when it comes to their "plans" to be out of Iraq within 90 days of taking office or whatever garbage they're trying to push. Obama's got no major experience to speak of, and simply touting all the time that Clinton voted to authorize force in Iraq and he didn't just doesn't pass muster. If you compare their essays in Foreign Affairs last year, you'll see that Clinton's strategic thinking only varies slightly in style from that of John McCain or even George W. Bush, but the main substance remains intact. America must retain its strategic pre-eminence, an involved America that promotes its ideals is good for the world, and those rogue states and violent non-state actors must be faced down.
I also think that Clinton trumps him when it comes to the commander-in-chief aspects of the job. I have a hard time taking the rhetoric of either candidate seriously when it comes to their "plans" to be out of Iraq within 90 days of taking office or whatever garbage they're trying to push. Obama's got no major experience to speak of, and simply touting all the time that Clinton voted to authorize force in Iraq and he didn't just doesn't pass muster. If you compare their essays in Foreign Affairs last year, you'll see that Clinton's strategic thinking only varies slightly in style from that of John McCain or even George W. Bush, but the main substance remains intact. America must retain its strategic pre-eminence, an involved America that promotes its ideals is good for the world, and those rogue states and violent non-state actors must be faced down.
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unforgiven1818
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Ivote for Obama
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Wow, what a clever post. 
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