Crediting Shows

[Greystoke]

Wow.

Just...wow.

There isn't really anything I can say, it's all been said already, I just wanted to share how weird this looks like. A quote from some TV show or something comes to mind: "from zero to psycho in 10 seconds".

[nuno_m]

Let's see... people who author shows make menus -> people who make menus write their names on them for others to recognize their work, so no, i don't think that listing the names of the people who authored a show is a MUST.
i do think it is important to list them if you have a list and somehow you need to distinguish two different sources from the same show.

I don't list the names because i think i need to, i list them because i think it's needed to distinguish the shows so people can know what show they are getting.
i always list (Damage Inc.) in front of a show, no matter if it is a release from Ron and Matt or only from Ron.
If you read that, and only that, in front of the show, you will know what source and what show you are looking at, and if people are interested in that show, they WILL see your name once they get it and watch it.

I also think Tapers deserve more respect than the people who author shows, but unfortunately, that doesn't happen.
How would the bootleg community be without the Tapers, i ask. IT WOULDN'T BE AT ALL!
and you don't see them demanding for you to list their names on your lists.

It's your list, you decide whether you want to list the names or not.

But i do appreciate all the work that EVERYBODY does when they contribute to the bootleg community and i thank you for that.

[MetDream]

Well I am glad to see that the community is not grieving the loss of future Sabkisscrue shows. I wish there were a way to communicate to Matt that no one said that he doesn't deserve credit, that it is that ever so present attitude and his demanding the credit NOW that just makes people so turned off. That and he has yet to credit one Filmer who he got these shows from. If he was so accommodating to others as he is expecting others be to him. We would know who FILMED these awesome shows that he "worked so hard to get".

I am just sorry that DamageInc777 is so caught up in the middle of all this bologna. Ron does a great job authoring and I hope that all this drama doesnt turn him off from trading as well.

However, now that his suspension is over and he is back, Sabkisscrue is increasing the entertainment value of the boards.... that and he brings some members who never or rarely post else wise out of the woodwork.

[Elmoz]

Well I am glad to see that the community is not grieving the loss of future Sabkisscrue shows.

as i said on my post above, i went to bed last night crying like a baby, it was hard i could barely catch any sleep at all. I still cant accept it

[metallifreak27]

wow, to come online and read all this>......

i must say i am PLEASED

[Sabkisscrue]

Actually, I don’t see why we should not be allowed to react in a personal way if us assholes are told to go fuck ourselves…

How dare anyone criticise my deserving credit for the shows that I released that wouldnt be possible had I not put them into circulation. You deserve nothing. Its because of my selflessness that I did you guys a favor and released them. You all should honor and respect my wishes to be credited for these shows. I dare not forget to remind you all that you would be collecting VCD quality garbage if it werent for me and now you guys can go back to doing so. Not for a million would I release anything else to you assholes! You can all Go Fuck yourselves!

I DARE because I am not only a few years older than you, but first and foremost an intelligent human being and perfectly capable of thinking for myself, which seems to separate me from you in every way. A reaction like this now just shows you are unable to learn and reflect your own behaviour, even if you get a clear shot across the bows. This is such incredibly immature acting, I would be amused if I didn’t hold such a grudge against you, and you exactly know why. You DARE telling people you deserve to be respected? For what exactly? Releasing shows that are in circulation for I don’t know how long and claim them as your transfers? For backing away like the coward that you are if confronted? Or simply for telling everyone who doesn’t share your absolutely nonrelevant opinion to fuck off? If that’s what you want to be respected for, I bow to thee… For anything else? Boy, stop dreaming.

This sums up your grudge. You feel you are more intellegent then me. Why? Because you run a web site? You are correct there. I am not "intellegent" enough to do that *sarcasm*.

I hope you will be able to find a place in this gigantic world known as the Internet where you will be able to masturbate while reading other people's comment about how life changing your videos are.

Well, don’t we all do just that in Matt’s opinion? A bit of nice, relaxing masturbation while watching his oh so earthshaking releases, just because we’ve never seen anything better before, and now, because of our own stupidity and ingratitude, will never again see?

You are right, you will never see them again. You have lots of VCD quality garbage to make screens of to look forward to.

I really appreciated all the effort you put in getting the shows, authoring them and best of all sharing them with all of us.

Hold on about the authoring, that’s Ron’s job... so he’s the one that should get the credit for, even more so as he never demanded it.

I demand it because I deserve it. If you feel any other way, you are an idiot.

What I don’t get is why is so important for you to get a credit for something you didn’t even tape at all. Hell not even Dave_jr who is sharing some great shows from Detroit which are proshot footage is not been that anal about it asking and demanding credit.

Hes not asking or demanding credit? You are a moron! This is why hes releasing them, he wants the notoriety!

And that’s exactly why no one will ever have a problem crediting Dave_Jr for his releases. He shares incredible shows just for the fun of it and gets his thank yous and credits all over the place, just the way it should be. He doesn’t ask to get his cock sucked for, as opposed to Matt.

I would never ask you to suck my cock, thats your fantasy. You WISH I asked you for that.

If you think you were doing me (us) a favor for getting the shows into circulation on this amazing quality, you are wrong dude. I can live without them, in fact doesn’t make my life any much better if I have your releases or not. It’s a freaking bootleg tape for god sake, it’s not like I will become rich from watching it or by putting your nickname on my webpage.

In fact, Matt: Checking out your releases, doing screens for them bored me to death lately. So many of those “upgrades” are exactly the same than what’s out there already, it was completely senseless. But then again, isn’t trading in general?

This is you searching for anything negative to say. If these shows bother you, why do you cream at the thought of getting them? Cuz you want them. You are a hypocrite.

I bet you get a boner every time you see a trader is crediting your shows, right? And it makes you feel almighty while you see everyone is giving you credit because otherwise you the almighty won’t release anything else if they don’t credit you as you told them to.
How childish that is?

It isn’t?

And no one was suggesting not crediting at all, just not bowing down to immature demands like my name must be first or else.

Oh no? You sure?

Oh, and btw: Matt, how about you try to stick your own head up your ass right next to your fucking shows?!

Isnt that what I have been doing according to you guys?

[Sabkisscrue]

*please notice the sarcasm

The truth is I dont prefer Speedy Gonzales getting copies of my shows. Its not about credit.

[Sabkisscrue]

Sab, thank you for the hours of footage from shows that you could have enjoyed yourself, but instead you decided to tape (opps, my bad you didn't tape them...sorry for that). I am sure those lucky enough to enjoy them will be able to continue with their lives as much as those who have 0 idea which videos are actually yours (like me, seriously I will remember Ron, but you, I have no idea who you are and which videos you released). I won't miss you nor your videos but I thank you for the entertainment

I hope you will be able to find a place in this gigantic world known as the Internet where you will be able to masturbate while reading other people's comment about how life changing your videos are.

Thanks for the memories and please go fuck yourself as well

This is just plain ignorance on your part. How many times have I posted which releases are mine? Do I need to point each and every one of them out JUST for you? I dont think I need to.

[Sabkisscrue]

You all should honor and respect my wishes...

Since your first "You'll never get another good show" speech we got a partial pro-shot from a '91 show.

Sit in a corner and cry, you tool.

Yes, I got a lot of crying to do since no one is gonna be getting anymore shows from me.
And thats a partial pro shot, btw.

[Sabkisscrue]

How dare anyone criticise my deserving credit for the shows that I released that wouldnt be possible had I not put them into circulation. You deserve nothing. Its because of my selflessness that I did you guys a favor and released them. You all should honor and respect my wishes to be credited for these shows. I dare not forget to remind you all that you would be collecting VCD quality garbage if it werent for me and now you guys can go back to doing so. Not for a million would I release anything else to you assholes! You can all Go Fuck yourselves!

Why the fuck,should we honour OR respect you? A bloody baby,who demands we all should bow down,kiss your ass,just so you`ll release the the 5th version of a show thats already out...and im sorry,but 70% of *Your* shows,
They are just the same as what was out there previousley,just with Menus!!

You make a big fuckin drama about everything,oh Rons name is listed first,you better put my name first,or i`ll release no more shows....Oh,i dont like what someone says about *My* show on their info page,how fucking dare they!!

So let me get this right....if it werent for you,we would all be collecting shitty VCDs,thats what your saying isnt it?
Ok then,so you have released over a 1000 Metallica bootlegs have you? Have you fuck!

People have been taping and releasing Metallica shows since you were sucking on your mothers nipples,it wont stop now...so if a peon like you starts to threaten not to release shows,im 100% confident that the scene wont shut down,because of you? I DONT THINK SO!

Like Mr Metal said...Ron is the person we remember,respect,not you....the *Thanks Matt* on the credits could be for anything

People like you do more harm than good to a community,and if you dont want to release anymore shows,then fine,fuck off...we will all go fuck ourselves,and blank you from memory

GROW UP,YOU IMMATURE LITTLE BABY!

Anyway,does anyone have any shitty VCDS they wanna trade with me?!!!

I didnt understand a single word you said.