norbinho wrote: just a comment of me on this NFT topic:
it's just sad to see that there are so many shows out there which we all know do exist, but thea are all NFT...for me personally i'm not wanting them because they are NFT or rare, i want them because i was at some og these show (for example rock im park 03 and 06, munich 04, ...)...it's always great to have a video bootleg of shows on which i have been!!
@leomet
i have done a few trades with dirk for normal shows, because he never trades his recordings...he was always nice and friendly...but i can't agree with you if you say he is not a hoarder!!! how do you call that, if everybody knows you have filmed a show because it's written on your website and you don't trade it??? anyway, dirk has the right to do what he wants with his recordings, but would it be that hard for him to release them??? i don't think so. i know quiet a few of my trading friends would also love to get one or another of dirk's shows, because they were there and would like to have the video as a memory on the show.
@ all hoarders
why not share your recordings of the band we all like with others?? i'm sure so many metallica fans here would appreciate your filming work, authoring and efforts to release a show!!
is there any reason that makes sense why some guys don't want to release their videos?? anybody has an answer on this question??
i will try to write with my bad english...
yes man, i understand your words, but all people think different, i know you would love to get shows filmed that you have been but that shit hapen... i am trying to get Buenos Aires 99 PRO or AUD, i know there is not an AUD recordings and some rumors about a PRO but i have never lucky!! there is a lot of tapers in Europe! if you dont have some Dirk shows, there is a lot of other sources!..... Munich for example you have at leats 1 video!.... i have 0 of Argentina 99! you must be happy!.... and yes, would be great to get all sources and some multicam of every show that Metallica play.
norbinho wrote: just a comment of me on this NFT topic:
it's just sad to see that there are so many shows out there which we all know do exist, but thea are all NFT...for me personally i'm not wanting them because they are NFT or rare, i want them because i was at some og these show (for example rock im park 03 and 06, munich 04, ...)...it's always great to have a video bootleg of shows on which i have been!!
@leomet
i have done a few trades with dirk for normal shows, because he never trades his recordings...he was always nice and friendly...but i can't agree with you if you say he is not a hoarder!!! how do you call that, if everybody knows you have filmed a show because it's written on your website and you don't trade it??? anyway, dirk has the right to do what he wants with his recordings, but would it be that hard for him to release them??? i don't think so. i know quiet a few of my trading friends would also love to get one or another of dirk's shows, because they were there and would like to have the video as a memory on the show.
@ all hoarders
why not share your recordings of the band we all like with others?? i'm sure so many metallica fans here would appreciate your filming work, authoring and efforts to release a show!!
is there any reason that makes sense why some guys don't want to release their videos?? anybody has an answer on this question??
i will try to write with my bad english...
yes man, i understand your words, but all people think different, i know you would love to get shows filmed that you have been but that shit hapen... i am trying to get Buenos Aires 99 PRO or AUD, i know there is not an AUD recordings and some rumors about a PRO but i have never lucky!! there is a lot of tapers in Europe! if you dont have some Dirk shows, there is a lot of other sources!..... Munich for example you have at leats 1 video!.... i have 0 of Argentina 99! you must be happy!.... and yes, would be great to get all sources and some multicam of every show that Metallica play.
thanks for your friendly reply, mate....i appreciate that a lot, because some certain guys don't write in that kind and friendly way like you.
@ munich 04
yes, you are right, there is at least one source...but as you may know it's all but complete...i don't need every source of every show or a multicam of every show...i would be lucky with a complete show...especially munich was one of the best metallica shows i have ever seen, and i went to quiet a few ones...amazing setlist with my favourite song dyers eve!!
You guys are both right. I don't think that tapers neccessarily HAVE to release the shows they've taped, but I cannot stand when they tape a show, and then put it on their list as NFT. It's like these people get some sort of false sense of power, they say to themselves, "Oh, I have this show, and you never will. HAHAHA"". Plus, it's not like bootlegs are worth money (what does a DVD-R cost to produce, 5 cents American), so why hoard? I get some joy in making people happy by spreading recordings. It's not like people will look up to you for hoarding shows.
hellawaits77 wrote: ...but I cannot stand when they tape a show, and then put it on their list as NFT. It's like these people get some sort of false sense of power, they say to themselves, "Oh, I have this show, and you never will. HAHAHA"".
i totally agree with you...if someone doesn't want to trade certain shows or is not allowed to trade certain shows, then just don't put it on the list!!! nobody will ask you then for a trade!!!
Just a question for hoarders, in all seriousness too, does hoarding actually work? Like, do you get similarly rare shit from other hoarders? Or is it just tucked under your pillow each night?
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Leighton wrote: Just a question for hoarders, in all seriousness too, does hoarding actually work? Like, do you get similarly rare shit from other hoarders? Or is it just tucked under your pillow each night?
interesting question...an answer would be really interesting!!
Leighton wrote: Just a question for hoarders, in all seriousness too, does hoarding actually work? Like, do you get similarly rare shit from other hoarders? Or is it just tucked under your pillow each night?
norbinho wrote: interesting question...an answer would be really interesting!!
yes others rare unreleased shows can be obtained, (if they find out the correct thing the other person wants) but the shows are usally only shared between the select people if one gets permission from the other person (or the guy they got it from) to share it they do so but usally one uses there unreleased shows to get something from there wantlist,
years ago one could trade/offer a unreleased show for another one no matter what year it was from, now days if you want a unreleased cliff video, unreleased MOR 88 video, or a unreleased proshot from Metallica you will need to offer something unreleased from the same year/era. so today it makes it alot harder to obtain those older videos people are camping on/asked not to trade out for over 15 + years.
it would be nice to see someone let out the last known cliff video from 7-6-86 roskilde festival denmark (full show) when i say last known, i mean this is one of the only few videos people have shown proof of exsisting... but i am sure there is more out there people do not talk about.. either because they were asked not to or else they want to just die with it.
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Leighton wrote: Just a question for hoarders, in all seriousness too, does hoarding actually work? Like, do you get similarly rare shit from other hoarders? Or is it just tucked under your pillow each night?
norbinho wrote: interesting question...an answer would be really interesting!!
yes others rare unreleased shows can be obtained, (if they find out the correct thing the other person wants) but the shows are usally only shared between the select people if one gets permission from the other person (or the guy they got it from) to share it they do so but usally one uses there unreleased shows to get something from there wantlist,
years ago one could trade/offer a unreleased show for another one no matter what year it was from, now days if you want a unreleased cliff video, unreleased MOR 88 video, or a unreleased proshot from Metallica you will need to offer something unreleased from the same year/era. so today it makes it alot harder to obtain those older videos people are camping on/asked not to trade out for over 15 + years.
it would be nice to see someone let out the last known cliff video from 7-6-86 roskilde festival denmark (full show) when i say last known, i mean this is one of the only few videos people have shown proof of exsisting... but i am sure there is more out there people do not talk about.. either because they were asked not to or else they want to just die with it.
I think tapers are right on their behalf when they want to get an unreleased show by keeping their unreleased ones. Because that can easily be called fair. It's a fair trade. Nothing ridiculous as long as one makes fun of others cause have an UR show. And I think it be better if they put those NFT shows into another list on their sites not to fierce some traders.
