I have some rare MV shows that are NFT and are TS on the DL.
(The MV stands for Milli Vanilli and the TS stands for Top Secret, bitches)
In all seriousness, I have never understood WHY people put things that are NFT on their lists. Apparently, it is simply for bragging rights.
I have a shedload of NFT shows that I don't even mention to people simply because that was part of the deal when I traded for them. (and before anyone panics, NONE of them are Metallica shows - I wish they were)
What some people fail to understand is the handful of people that wind up releasing or bragging about these NFT shows wind up ruining any chance of it seeing the light of day to fans outside of those circles.
Does it suck that there is a bit of elitism involved? Yes, it does. But as has been mentioned before, most of the people that trade these sorts of shows put A LOT of work into hunting down shows to trade for in the first place.
The simple truth is hang in there and eventually the "owners" might give the green light to release these shows outside the circles someday.
If not, try and find rare shows to trade up for and join the elite.
Sorry to rant, just my two cents as someone who has put in some work regarding the subject.
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Re: The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread
Oh! I used a wrong word you see: It must be "Unreleased" or "Rare" show instead of NFT.
TayfunRaider wrote: I think tapers are right on their behalf when they want to get an unreleased show by keeping their unreleased ones. Because that can easily be called fair. It's a fair trade. Nothing ridiculous as long as one makes fun of others cause have an UR show. And I think it be better if they put those NFT Unreleased shows into another list on their sites not to fierce some traders.
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Re: The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread
We could go and on arguing the points of unfairness (which happens in EVERY trading forum).
Those of us that have received rare, unreleased shows simply follow the rules to not only keep ourselves in the loop but to also prohibit the possibility of them never being given the OK to go out to everyone else.
I didn't make the rules, I'm just a good little sheep that follows them.
Those of us that have received rare, unreleased shows simply follow the rules to not only keep ourselves in the loop but to also prohibit the possibility of them never being given the OK to go out to everyone else.
I didn't make the rules, I'm just a good little sheep that follows them.
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Re: The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread
hey dylan what the fuck are you sitting ondylanfree wrote: We could go and on arguing the points of unfairness (which happens in EVERY trading forum).
Those of us that have received rare, unreleased shows simply follow the rules to not only keep ourselves in the loop but to also prohibit the possibility of them being given the OK to go out to everyone else.
I didn't make the rules, I'm just a good little sheep that follows them.
to the staff why was page 16 removed, in my own personal opinion the shit in this thread should never be edited or deleted but it is just my opinion we should be able to bitch freely about each other in this fucking topic!
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The thread is for bitching about the act of NFT/Hoarding/Rares etc not the people doing it or the posters themselves.
I believe I saw what was removed, though I wasn't the one to do it, I can understand why.
Metpage has always been quite strict on member conduct, and while it rubs some the wrong way, others come here for that very reason.
As for the censoring, favouritism etc, that's just as crazy as everyone who was saying the RM's were some sort of super elite extra secret group of chosen ones!
I believe I saw what was removed, though I wasn't the one to do it, I can understand why.
Metpage has always been quite strict on member conduct, and while it rubs some the wrong way, others come here for that very reason.
As for the censoring, favouritism etc, that's just as crazy as everyone who was saying the RM's were some sort of super elite extra secret group of chosen ones!
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Ooooh you're so getting banned!
As for the rest of you, Back on Topic or we'll set the RM's on you!
Now excuse me, I've got a Moon Landing to fake...
As for the rest of you, Back on Topic or we'll set the RM's on you!
Now excuse me, I've got a Moon Landing to fake...
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^^ Well I was kidding about the banstick... 
Anyway I missed the whole throwdown here that got deleted at the time, but having a read through it now I can see why it got canned. You even apologised at one point!
So post if you want to go into it, and I'll try and make it happen.
OTHERWISE - TO EVERYONE: BACK ON TOPIC
EDIT BY METDREAM: sjmike and I made the decision to delete the whole conversation that led to the insults and bashing between two of our members.... to appease the cry "to be fair" and "not show favoritism". As stated previously the whole conversation had deteriorated to the point of the absurd and bashing each other, so because it was pointless, it was completely deleted. We opened this thread back up as requested and so there was no need for cooters topic requesting it to be opened to remain. So there is your explanation, but quoting Poolzer: "This is a private forums. If you don't like the decisions we make, go start your own." So please stop with the childish name calling and stop taking pot shots at each other and argue about the damn NTFs in a civilized manner . Thanks.
Anyway I missed the whole throwdown here that got deleted at the time, but having a read through it now I can see why it got canned. You even apologised at one point!
- If you're really keen to go through it all, I'll make sure to make a post for the staff so whoever was responsible can go through it with you in PM or IM.
So post if you want to go into it, and I'll try and make it happen.
OTHERWISE - TO EVERYONE: BACK ON TOPIC
EDIT BY METDREAM: sjmike and I made the decision to delete the whole conversation that led to the insults and bashing between two of our members.... to appease the cry "to be fair" and "not show favoritism". As stated previously the whole conversation had deteriorated to the point of the absurd and bashing each other, so because it was pointless, it was completely deleted. We opened this thread back up as requested and so there was no need for cooters topic requesting it to be opened to remain. So there is your explanation, but quoting Poolzer: "This is a private forums. If you don't like the decisions we make, go start your own." So please stop with the childish name calling and stop taking pot shots at each other and argue about the damn NTFs in a civilized manner . Thanks.
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ahh, this is still going on 
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Re: The Nft/hoarding/rare Shows Bitching Thread
cooter all Im sayin is that if Niclas has them, whose to say they arent the same exact ones that were eventually given to the band? Niclas always had other people film every show in 2003. If he had two do the Paris gigs, why would he keep one of them from Metallica.
And why all the drama dude, seriously. Why is it when I all i did was question you, you get all antsy and defensive and say you are gonna stop posting shit. It aint that serious man. Dont take it as disrespect or whatever. This is constructive.
I mean shit, going by that same logic, Niclas could have copies of every single Metallica show out there, released or not. And when Jeff took over, whose to say he didnt keep some shows for his own viewing pleasure.
All I am sayin is that every single show for along time have been filmed and kept by the band. So the same could be said about every single show. I mean shit, Dan filmed the rehearsals, gave jeff the tapes, and then blah blah blah. Does that mean we'll every get them. Maybe, maybe not, but I mean this isnt really news is it?
and I hate the shit related to NFT but to label that mindset "lazy" is ignorant. Just because people have views doesnt mean they are lazy. You really need to stop with all that crap, cause its getting old and fucking boring.
And why all the drama dude, seriously. Why is it when I all i did was question you, you get all antsy and defensive and say you are gonna stop posting shit. It aint that serious man. Dont take it as disrespect or whatever. This is constructive.
I mean shit, going by that same logic, Niclas could have copies of every single Metallica show out there, released or not. And when Jeff took over, whose to say he didnt keep some shows for his own viewing pleasure.
All I am sayin is that every single show for along time have been filmed and kept by the band. So the same could be said about every single show. I mean shit, Dan filmed the rehearsals, gave jeff the tapes, and then blah blah blah. Does that mean we'll every get them. Maybe, maybe not, but I mean this isnt really news is it?
Who are you referring to exactly?
"paranoid" no I dont do drugs.
and I hate the shit related to NFT but to label that mindset "lazy" is ignorant. Just because people have views doesnt mean they are lazy. You really need to stop with all that crap, cause its getting old and fucking boring.
Its dark. People are screaming and yelling. Firebombs are exploding. Adrenaline is flowing. Chaos ensues. Where am I? A Metallica show!!!!