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Alexi Laiho Guitar

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Does anyone know of a guitar dealer that sells the Alexi Signature guitar "scythe" in Canada. And I mean the true signature version as I am aware there is a U.S version of his guitar but it is just not the same, if you compare pictures of the U.S version and his actual guitar there are slight differences. As far as I no the guitar is slightly modified due to copyright laws in North America. I don't think ESP wants to go through the lawsuit that happened with James Explorer guitar.
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You can't get the Scythe or any other real Alexi signature in North America.

ESP never had a lawsuit about the Explorer. ;)
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My son bought an ESP Alexi from Musiciansfriend, not sure the details on it. I sure hear it a lot lately, don't know much else.
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That would be the "US" version, it's not the real deal.

Compare:
http://espguitars.com/guitars_alexi.html = fake stuff.
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/oversea/sig/al_st_std.html = the shit. ;)
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Well there you go....shhh don't tell him.
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scottph wrote: You can't get the Scythe or any other real Alexi signature in North America.

ESP never had a lawsuit about the Explorer. ;)

Actually ESP did get sued for the explorer (ie James explorer: ESP-EXP MX250II) by Gibson because it had looked identical to the one Gibson made. Which is why you cannot buy that body style now. ESP changed the model from EXP to EX and the body of it also. You can however still buy a brand new ESP Explorer MX250II (James's guitar) but you must buy it in Japan, you cannot purchase it online you have to be in Japan to buy it. Only other solution is you can go on ebay and buy one. Either way you'll be spending +$2000 for the guitar.
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That would be wrong. Gibson threatened to sue ESP, but they didn't because ESP changed the shape.

The MX's aren't James' guitar either. James plays the old ESP Explorers that he got back in the day. The MX is a rebuild of the old EXP.
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scottph wrote: That would be wrong. Gibson threatened to sue ESP, but they didn't because ESP changed the shape.

The MX's aren't James' guitar either. James plays the old ESP Explorers that he got back in the day. The MX is a rebuild of the old EXP.
Bud just google it and you'll find many sites that say they WERE sued. Here's one exerpt from wikipedia "The only major guitar company to file a lawsuit against ESP was Gibson guitars, who claimed that ESP's Eclipse series was too similar to Gibson's famous Gibson Les Paul guitar. The lawsuit was unsuccessful as numerous other companies offered single-cut design shapes similar to the Les Paul, as was the Eclipse. Gibson also sued over the EXP model which was an exact copy of a Gibson Explorer guitar. ESP lost this lawsuit and the EXP had to be changed to the EX after Gibson sued" (link: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP_Guitars" under the section "Number Structure". I've done my homework, I've searched out various links and ESP did get sued for the EXP/MX line. I'm not 100% sure on what you mean that the MX is a rebuild of the EXP. I no that ESP did change there way of naming there guitars. I now that EXP was meant for Explorer but then they named it MX250II so I guess could be a "rebuild" of the original. I no the meaning the for MX250II is M Metallica, X meaning Explorer, and I believe 250 meaning 250,000 yen, and the II meaning 2 humbuckers.
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Wikipedia is wrong.

Gibson threatened to sue ESP over the old shape Explorer in the 90's. but didn't do it because ESP stopped selling them in North America. I'm not trying to rag on you man, but considering that you have to ask the question about the RV's (what you may know as the "real" Alexi sigs) and I answered it correctly, plus the fact that I have owned around 15 ESP's, two of them customs made for me, plus my very good relationship with ESP through one of their premium dealers worldwide, I would think that you should trust in what I say, and not Wikipedia where every dork can post.

Interesting fact: Gibson did sue PRS over their singlecut PRS guitars being too close to the Les Paul - and lost.
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scottph wrote: Wikipedia is wrong.

Gibson threatened to sue ESP over the old shape Explorer in the 90's. but didn't do it because ESP stopped selling them in North America. I'm not trying to rag on you man, but considering that you have to ask the question about the RV's (what you may know as the "real" Alexi sigs) and I answered it correctly, plus the fact that I have owned around 15 ESP's, two of them customs made for me, plus my very good relationship with ESP through one of their premium dealers worldwide, I would think that you should trust in what I say, and not Wikipedia where every dork can post.

Interesting fact: Gibson did sue PRS over their singlecut PRS guitars being too close to the Les Paul - and lost.

Yeah same here I'm not trying to create an argument or anything, no worries. But I'm just saying no matter where I look (not just Wikipedia, as far as Wiki goes you must have a reference to make a change) people are saying that ESP was sued and lost, period. I haven't found an article stating that ESP stopped making the explorer in north america, or anything remotely close to that. Just for giggles since I've made one reference to ESP being sued. How about you show me a reference to your claim that they were not sued but they just stopped making them? To be honest with no disrespect but I could care less if you owned 15 ESP guitars and have a relationship with a dealer, hows that proving to me that what your saying is true? Like I said I'm not trying to make this into an argument, just a friendly debate I guess you could call it.