HD Cam discussion

[Metfan72]

My brother has this camera: Jazz HDV178 Hi def 720P camcorder

I am thinking of trying it out for bootlegging this monday for Lamb of God. Does anyone know how the audio quality will be on this? Im sure the video will be great.

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view ... orum_id=92

doesnt seem like it:

5. Audio quality:
Since we're all used to the regular camcorder sound quality one would expect kind of same. Here is what the situation is: The microphone is good for recording voices within 10feet and you wont be able to understand what the people are saying if they are further away. Similarly, one should not expect good audio from concerts etc.

I guess I could alway film Metallica and dub Livemet audio on it lol

Only way to really find out is to try it out at a show.

Anyone can search Google & copy & paste info, something you probably did yourself.

As far as sound, at a show 10 feet away is still going to be too much for a cam. Try muffling it with electrical tape to try and offset the reverberation if you plan on being close or leave cam as is & stand as far back as you can without sacrificing picture quality too much. That little trick used to work, but audio did suffer a bit, but was not distorted and crunchy sounding. Can't have it all I guess.

I have not filmed any shows with any of the new cams, but used to film quite a bit years ago and sound quality always suffered the closer you were because of power of the instruments being fed into the mic.

We don't really see that too much with PRO shots, but they also have the benefit of having SBD audio to mix with.

Good luck and if you do get that LOG show, I would like to check it out.

[maidencolorado]

I'd be interested in checking out the LOG as well, so good luck if you give it a try. I have no experience with that cam, but have found a trick that has worked for another one of mine that otherwise doesn't get the greatest audio. I've taped a piece of a heavy T-Shirt over the microphone (tape on the sides, not over the mic itself) and noticed a pretty good improvement, seemed to have cut down on the SPLs.

Obviously, a secondary audio source is the best way to go, but real life situations don't always allow for that.

Any chance you could hit a "local" show and give it a try before using it at a concert that you'd really like to film?

[maidencolorado]

I grabbed a Panasonic UJ-210.

I'm thinking about grabbing the same one.

I'll be filming my first show tomorrow night using the new cammie, wavering a bit about going high def or standard def, so I think I'll film the opening act in SD, headliners in HD.

[Metfan72]

Anyone can search Google & copy & paste info, something you probably did yourself.

Thats where the info is going to come from sometimes, Who cares where the info comes from as long as the information i provide helps someone.

Cj

How helpful is it hen he can search Google himself?

He is looking for tips from people who have actually filmed a show, and last I heard from you is that you have never filmed anything.

[King_Nothing]

Well i filmed COB lastnight with the cam. the Video is great, however the audio is not so great.
If I was standing farther back it would be ok. I would share the video but it would be for completion-ists only.

[Metfan72]

Well i filmed COB lastnight with the cam. the Video is great, however the audio is not so great.
If I was standing farther back it would be ok. I would share the video but it would be for completion-ists only.

Kind of where I was going with the info I gave you. Had you been able to somehow muffle the mic it a little bit, I am sure the audio would have turned out slightly better.

I used to film in small bars & clubs and it took a lot of trial & error before I learned what worked and what didn't.

How was COB? Last time I saw them was with Megadeth a couple years ago. They were a bit sloppy that night.

[maidencolorado]

Well i filmed COB lastnight with the cam. the Video is great, however the audio is not so great.
If I was standing farther back it would be ok. I would share the video but it would be for completion-ists only.

Try the thick t-shirt material taped over the mic if you have an old shirt you don't mind cutting up, should muffle the mic a bit.

I'm trying mine (Sony HDR-HC5) out tonight for Landmine Marathon and Misery Index, running separate audio with my R-09 just to be safe.

[King_Nothing]

Ill put a sample on here when I can & if someone is crazy enough to want the whole show I can seed it.
Many security ducks and I was in the mosh pit lol thankfully stabalize is on, but at a show that is all ages, there are always little bitches fighting each other and puking all over the place.
Some nice video shots though. Just mic overload

[maidencolorado]

Sure, looking forward to the sample, thanks.

As for the all ages, little bitches fighting each other and puking all over the place, just went through that a couple of months ago at Meshuggah. Can't stand all ages shows anymore.

[Metfan72]

Sure, looking forward to the sample, thanks.

As for the all ages, little bitches fighting each other and puking all over the place, just went through that a couple of months ago at Meshuggah. Can't stand all ages shows anymore.

Where did you catch them. I saw them at The Phoenix in Toronto. And yeah, all ages shows suck big time.

I understand the need for them as maybe not too many over 18's or 21 in the US will watch the show but it still gets annoying real fast watching these kids scrapping in the pit.