Michael Jackson suffers cardiac arrest

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Bob Garage wrote: see this is what get me about this whole news story.... the number of people (and its in the many millions of people) saying "yes I know he did those things with children, but he still made great music". As if its ok for him to have done those things just because he wrote a good song or two.

being a talented singer/songwriter does not give anyone the excuse to abuse children. And people and the media today seem to be forgetting his wrong doings or saying well it was ok, he wrote good songs.

Michael Jackson abused children, let us not elevate him to "icon" status for his music, let's remember his many wrong doings outwiegh anything else he has contributed to society in his life.
Do you know for sure that he abused childern?The judges spoke him free although that's not a proof that he's not guilty especially in the US....
But for me he is an icon as an musician.Millions of records sold in the past few years!You've to admit..
my point was, that what agrivated me about this "outpooring of grief" is the people who say "it doesn't mater if he molested children, becuase hes wrote a few good songs". (and there is litterally millions of people saying such things on sites like twitter this morning)

Just because someone wrote a few good songs doesn't mean they can get away with molesting children. We don't know if he did or not, but such statements from people suggest that if he did do it, then its ok becuase he wrote some good songs,"he's allowed" to do it.

wrote SOME songs hehe ..Thriller number 1 saling album of all time ...WORLd wide...just some songs though
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Flickn wrote:
Bob Garage wrote:
JM16 wrote:
Bob Garage wrote: see this is what get me about this whole news story.... the number of people (and its in the many millions of people) saying "yes I know he did those things with children, but he still made great music". As if its ok for him to have done those things just because he wrote a good song or two.

being a talented singer/songwriter does not give anyone the excuse to abuse children. And people and the media today seem to be forgetting his wrong doings or saying well it was ok, he wrote good songs.

Michael Jackson abused children, let us not elevate him to "icon" status for his music, let's remember his many wrong doings outwiegh anything else he has contributed to society in his life.
Do you know for sure that he abused childern?The judges spoke him free although that's not a proof that he's not guilty especially in the US....
But for me he is an icon as an musician.Millions of records sold in the past few years!You've to admit..
my point was, that what agrivated me about this "outpooring of grief" is the people who say "it doesn't mater if he molested children, becuase hes wrote a few good songs". (and there is litterally millions of people saying such things on sites like twitter this morning)

Just because someone wrote a few good songs doesn't mean they can get away with molesting children. We don't know if he did or not, but such statements from people suggest that if he did do it, then its ok becuase he wrote some good songs,"he's allowed" to do it.

wrote SOME songs hehe ..Thriller number 1 saling album of all time ...WORLd wide...just some songs though
that still doesn't excuse any of his alledged actions. and people, all over the world, repeatedly saying today... "it doesn't matter if he molested children because he was so good at writing songs"
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Bob Garage wrote:
Flickn wrote:
Bob Garage wrote:
JM16 wrote:
Bob Garage wrote: see this is what get me about this whole news story.... the number of people (and its in the many millions of people) saying "yes I know he did those things with children, but he still made great music". As if its ok for him to have done those things just because he wrote a good song or two.

being a talented singer/songwriter does not give anyone the excuse to abuse children. And people and the media today seem to be forgetting his wrong doings or saying well it was ok, he wrote good songs.

Michael Jackson abused children, let us not elevate him to "icon" status for his music, let's remember his many wrong doings outwiegh anything else he has contributed to society in his life.
Do you know for sure that he abused childern?The judges spoke him free although that's not a proof that he's not guilty especially in the US....
But for me he is an icon as an musician.Millions of records sold in the past few years!You've to admit..
my point was, that what agrivated me about this "outpooring of grief" is the people who say "it doesn't mater if he molested children, becuase hes wrote a few good songs". (and there is litterally millions of people saying such things on sites like twitter this morning)

Just because someone wrote a few good songs doesn't mean they can get away with molesting children. We don't know if he did or not, but such statements from people suggest that if he did do it, then its ok becuase he wrote some good songs,"he's allowed" to do it.

wrote SOME songs hehe ..Thriller number 1 saling album of all time ...WORLd wide...just some songs though
that still doesn't excuse any of his alledged actions. and people, all over the world, repeatedly saying today... "it doesn't matter if he molested children because he was so good at writing songs"

Key word " alleged" get over it already remember the man for his music contribution
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flickin, clearly you either haven't read or haven't understood the point I was making.

i can't be bothered to argue it anymore.
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I agree with you Bob Garage.

In the eighties, pre-teen, I was into pop music. I got the Thriller LP for my 10th birthday in 1984 and I played the hell out of it. I loved MJ's music! As I got older and got into other things, I stopped listening to him. If a song of his came on, I would listen to it and still enjoy it.

The problem I have, is the allegations of the child molesting and the family pay-offs to avoid convictions. The plastic surgeries and bleaching doesn't bother me so much...too each his own. When you start talking about abusing children, I can't help but to hold that against someone, regardless of who they are.

Michael Jackson had a huge impact on pop music, spanning over many decades and I appreciate the joy I got from listening and watching him perform back in the day.
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well ive not been a fan of him since he started out. but looking back on albums like thriller i can see why so many adore him.
i personally thought he was a freak..
as for child accusations, as far as im concerned its true, no one who is innocent pays out millions in out of court settlements for no reason.
and what sane person would hang there kid out of a window and have young kids sleep over.
the guy is crazy and had serious issues.
kids are gonna be a little safer now hes gone

thats just my oppinion and like an ass hole every1 has one

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Trippy thing is that my wife pulled out an old Jacko DVD from Yokohama from the BAD tour... I had forgotten ALL about his musical talents what with all the bullshit through the past 15 years or so...THRILLER may be the BEST album EVER! But since then? <_< I'm assuming this is a Heath Ledger kinda thing...HELL! He was even planning a tour...RIP
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The lost of Michael Jackson is big, very big for the music and all kinds of artists worldwide. I always enjoyed his music; I remember listening to CDs like Thriller or Bad with my father more than 15 years ago. May he RIP.

The lost of Michael Jackson as a person for the world; each one should have his opinion to it. It really never interested me that much...
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I feel for his kids. Thats about it. Everbody dies.
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It's very sad that passed away. Michael "The King of Pop". I loved songs like "Black & White" "Billy Jane" and so on. I recorded tonight a Gig from the "Dangerous -Tour" in the German TV! I didn't watched it yet but I think it was a great concert!?