Bitching about trading shows before someone else gets it

[franticfreak]

Its nice to see that other ppl trade out MY masters and i wont get nutin for my effort...great....

[unforgiven]

I guess you are right, did you ever give them free to trade out...!!

Unforgiven

Its nice to see that other ppl trade out MY masters and i wont get nutin for my effort...great....

[even13flow]

Its nice to see that other ppl trade out MY masters and i wont get nutin for my effort...great....

Exactly dude, and I filmed Korn just for the right to have your shows and I haven't even gotten to trade them yet, yet they are totally out there...I'm just as pissed as you are. I think people need to come forward and say who they got the show from.

I filmed Korn EXCLUSIVELY for Jorg for trading rights to these shows in July (Oberhausen and Cologne), and while I patiently wait the show makes its rounds. I pretty much did it all for nothing.

[St_Metal]

Shitty on both sides. Release all shows to the masses and noone will complain!!!

Thanks Santos for filming and releasing! Unfortunately the shows I could have offered you you already got incoming, but I'm sure someday I'll get the recording and revive some memories!

[Metfan72]

Shitty on both sides. Release all shows to the masses and noone will complain!!!

Thanks Santos for filming and releasing! Unfortunately the shows I could have offered you you already got incoming, but I'm sure someday I'll get the recording and revive some memories!

Yes Maxi, it is shitty on both sides. As I was telling you yesterday in our conversation.

I am pretty sure Jorg is now going to hold onto his recordings a little tighter and not sure Jake is not going to attempt this Exclusive deal again as you can see everyone has the shows he was holding on to, to help gets some shows he needs.

Either way, there is good and bad to holding onto certain things.

[rusalguhl]

Hi Paul.

you trade this show

01 APR 2009 - Palais Omnisport Bercy, Paris, France 3DVD (ChMetal)

did you get it from ChMetal or did you aks him if it is OK for him you trade his show ?

think you get it from a guy here on metpage and he buy it on Ebay.

[Metfan72]

I got it from here when it was made available to EVERYONE.

And sorry but when shows are being SOLD for a profit, then all bets are off in my books.

Nobody should be making any type of MONETARY gain from bootlegs.

I also don't see you questioning Krzych if he asked either as he is trading 2009-04-02 and from what I believe he got them free, but I traded for mine.

[even13flow]

I don't think it's wrong for a filmer to go sell his show on ebay, we wouldn't have some of the shows we do like Fresno 2004, and all the NYCBC shows. There has been quite a few people selling my show on ebay which pisses me off to no end.

[130269]

Shitty on both sides. Release all shows to the masses and noone will complain!!!

Thanks Santos for filming and releasing! Unfortunately the shows I could have offered you you already got incoming, but I'm sure someday I'll get the recording and revive some memories!

I get the Cologne DVD Version ( no HD Version) from Franticfreak and i asked him what i can do with the DVD´s. Should i set them NFT for a while or RT. He said RT is ok for him. The same with Otto and his Oslo Show.
So i´ve traded some rare Metallica stuff ( in my opinion rare stuff) for Franticfreaks Cologne DVD´s.

I have no Problems to respect wishes from Tapers to handle her shows. If i get sometimes a NFT show you will never see them on my list !! But personally i don´t like this NFT or RT fuss... god damn we are all fans of this band and there´s only a show on a dvd...

Just my 2cents and sorry for my bad english. Amen !

[Metfan72]

I don't think it's wrong for a filmer to go sell his show on ebay, we wouldn't have some of the shows we do like Fresno 2004, and all the NYCBC shows. There has been quite a few people selling my show on ebay which pisses me off to no end.

I agree to an extent Jake, but once money becomes involved then it is a different issue. In your case, you are not selling it, so why should anyone else.

But in the case of these Paris shows, if someone pays money for a show, it is their's to do as they wish. There is no going back and asking filmer is it OK to trade it after he put it up for sale.

He HAS no rights anymore. Tough shit,now if he traded it and asked for it to be RT or NFT, that is different, but he did not so it is open season on his recordings.


**EDIT** Rephrasing. If it is a private sale from a filmer and he asks for it to be NFT, ok you respect that. But when someone puts it on EBAY and expects to be asked permission, he is out of mind.

And instead of questioning me Jurgen, how about you go question the guy who traded it out on here. That is probably how you got your copies, so don't act all high and mighty.