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Re: Bitching from the Cologne Thread

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sjmike wrote:
Metfan72 wrote: LMFAO!!!!!!!! Seems the guys that want to have the biggest lists are the guys too fucking terrified to sneak a cam in and film anything for themselves.

Always sit around waiting for everyone else to do the dirty work to pad their lists and help them sleep at night.

DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!1
I may not have taped a show, but not like I haven't done anything to give back to the trading community. I've given away over a thousand shows over the years on both audio and video (including 100+ to you and Jake) and never asked for anything in return. Helped people build their trading sites, helped countless others by providing tech support with their with their PCs and routers.

If you or others don't want to trade with me, I really don't care.

Mike, I may have included you in the first part but I am not talking about you. Maybe because I said to go film a show, yeah but you have not been part of these ongoing discussions with regards to how JW conducts his business.

I know you have helped many, many people and that cannot be discounted Mike, at all but you have to admit that what has transpired and the loss of 2 more filmers because of JW has to piss you off and if not, why doesn't it bother you?

Why is Otto gone? Because JW can't take no for answer. Bernd, I am fairly certain he has had some trouble with JW regarding shows. Bernd will continue to film, but we have lost him as a trader. Myself, as much as I just to let everyone have what I just recorded, why should I when people who don't film shit all over the ones that do.

Am I glad he is gone?? FUCK YEAH, and it was LONG overdue, and to deny that is just plain ignorance.

This was not meant as a call out Mike, but I was trying to be civil as what I had hoped would not happen did, and Dennis & Jorg have said FUCK YOU to the Metallica community. All because a little patience couldn't be exercised.

Again I say it. Hope it was all worth it.

Cody, Jake, Nick, Andy, myself and I am sure many more will now watermark their recordings. Trading it out, even though this new deal where everyone sends then recieves still blew up in our faces because the actions of just 1 guy.

That truly is sad and pathetic and until he films, nothing should land in his hands as deserves NOTHING. You have contributed so yeah, you do deserve what is out there, but apart from what JW does to help you, I am not seeing that anywhere else, and if he does it is at a price that most people are not willing to pay.
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Re: Bitching from the Cologne Thread

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I think this topic has probably gotten off topic, but oh well. I just wanted to make it clear...I don't think anybody was pointing the finger at Mike. He's got more shows than anybody, his site is consistently referenced (including by myself), and yes he does alot of "charity work". I can't even count the amount of shows he's given me via FTP, snail mail, B&P over the years, as well as helped me with many computer problems. Our friendship spans beyond the Metallica community (as does my friendship with Paul and WVMonster)

The bottom line is that the burden truly lies with the people who have ANY video. Whether it's 1 person with the show or 20 people with it, it's the job of those people to ensure the rules are followed until it's time for freely trading. I didn't know JW and don't have anything against him personally but it seems in this case that he broke the rules. Mike is not guilty for asking for a show to trade, JW is guilty of sharing a show that wasn't meant to be shared yet.
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Re: Bitching from the Cologne Thread

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Topic has gone off course, but in a sense Jake this has never really died as it just an extension of what happened to you with the Jorg deal.

One of the parties is still involved and now he is saying that this community, because of the actions of just 1 guy is not worth dealing with.

Mike got caught in the crossfire, but had he left it unseen on his site this never would have happened.

To the guys who film shows, the guys who do let stuff out it is disturbing that a guy who never films keeps disrespecting people's wishes. It was made pretty clear that all deals were to be with Dennis and not to trade until EVERYONE had the show.

The only thing Dennis did wrong was think he could trust JW. He sent to JW first and well this is what is left.
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My next project will have again a watermark like my authored London and Paris show. I traded out a few copies in the past and everybody was happy. I'm not interesting in if you like watermarks or not. I won't that someone reauthor my show. (And I can tell you my new project shows unseen material. More about that comming soon!
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The Commader wrote: My next project will have again a watermark like my authored London and Paris show. I traded out a few copies in the past and everybody was happy. I'm not interesting in if you like watermarks or not. I won't that someone reauthor my show. (And I can tell you my new project shows unseen material. More about that comming soon!
Quite an offtop post, but LOOKING FORWARD :D
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The Commader wrote: My next project will have again a watermark like my authored London and Paris show. I traded out a few copies in the past and everybody was happy. I'm not interesting in if you like watermarks or not. I won't that someone reauthor my show. (And I can tell you my new project shows unseen material. More about that comming soon!

Andy, as much as I realize you want to contribute to the conversation at hand, taunting people and dangling a show that nobody except yourself will see is not cool.

I want to let my shows out, just want to make sure that if I am making trades nobody will do anything until I have secured all I can for it.

Again, I have made trades with my Priest master and vined Dream Theater so I am not trying to be a hoarder, just sucks that more Metallica filmers are getting shafted.
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Re: Bitching from the Cologne Thread

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Metfan my actual projet will be for free! I will trade it out!
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The Commader wrote: Metfan my actual projet will be for masses!

Well then Andy, thanks and look forward to it.

Appreciate you wanting to share.
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But my friend must say that I can take his material. I hope he will. Therefore I won't tell something about my project yet. Hope you understand!?
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The Commader wrote: But my friend must say that I can take his material. I hope he will. Therefore I won't tell something about my project yet. Hope you understand!?
When you know more Make a new topic for your project Andy don't use this one.

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