World Cup 2010 South Africa

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AmIEvil01 wrote: I think that spain deserved to win, cause holland only fought with unfair methods. They kicked the spain players more often than the ball, especially in the first half. If everything would have bene regular, at least 3 players from holland would have seen the red card. Spain also started with some fouls later in the game, but not even close as bad fouls as holland. Holland didn't have much chances, so they decided to play more defensive and tried to keep spain from making goals, with unfair fouls. Also, they were very bad losers, when they got their medals they looked like they would like to kill someone, they could have been at least thankful for the medal, some players and the trainer even put the medal off their neck just after they got it.

Come on, what would you do if you have just lost a final, a final of a WC for god's sake!

You play that match maybe once in your entire career, I would have been disappointed too and I too would probably have taken the medal from my neck.

Everyone here's talking about how rude the Dutch played, but it wasn't as bad as some of you think it was.

The Dutch played aggressive but they weren't kicking Spanish players all the time.

Like you said: "if everything would have been regular" but that's the case this whole tournament.
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clovnul wrote: The Spanish players dive to much.
That's right, I already mentioned it. Half of the Holland fouls were nothing but Spanish players diving. I admit that Holland made some heavy tackles, but come on, Spanish players sometimes acted like girls.

And by the way, the red card: Heitinga barely put his hand on Iniesta's shoulder and the Spanish fell like a wounded soldier or something. That guy is pathetic!
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Yeah Andi, you would be so happy after 120 mins of playing when you lose and feel that the ref clearly made bad decisions.
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damageinc wrote: Yeah Andi, you would be so happy after 120 mins of playing when you lose and feel that the ref clearly made bad decisions.
Thats right. And although I find Howard Webb one of the best referees in the world so far, he definitely had a bad day yesterday.
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Iniesta is not pathetic, him and Xavi are the best players in the world :)

I think Spain deserved the victory more than Holland, because they actually went for it. It's funny to see how people blame the Spaniards of diving when Van Persie and Robben were doing the same. The referee was bad, but for both teams; not just Holland. It's funny to see how people wanted Iniesta to get a red card, yet they are justifying the nasty tackling and challenges "Come on! it wasn't that bad!". Point is that Holland should have been playing with 2 less players in the first half and with the fact that Van Persie once again proved he is overrated as hell, it would have been 11 vs 8.

You can't say that you got robbed when the referee was bad, really bad on both ends. I feel sympathy for the Dutch for loosing the final, but no way they can blame everything on the referee.


Holland had 2 good chances and didn't score, Spain had two chances and put one in... that's football. It wasn't a great match but Spain was much better than Holland, besides the pass to Robben, Sneijder was lost, Robben missed the great chance and if he goes down when Puyol grabbed him he would have gotten the foul and red card for Puyol, for a player like Robben who is always with his ass on the floor this was the time to finally take a dive, but he didn't... not a smart play.
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Oh yeah. If they move to Premier League, they would probably play only 10 matches, the rest of the championship being injured.
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Just like the superstar Deco. :D

Anyway, I didn't mean Iniesta is not a good player, I meant he's pathetic because of his playing mentality.

Oh silly Webb, he should have used red card instead of yellow, so the match would have ended after Holland got less than 8 players on the pitch. :whis:
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Mr.Metal wrote: ...with the fact that Van Persie once again proved he is overrated as hell, it would have been 11 vs 8.
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he is very very overrated...looking back on great dutch strikers like marco van basten or ruud van nistelroy, van persie is a joke...not good enough and always very lazy to run for the team <_<
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Don't know. In my opinion Robben & Van Persie don't like each other. I haven't seen the group matches, or the match with the Slovakian team, but I've seen the last 3 matches. They avoid passing each other.
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Mr.Metal wrote: Iniesta is not pathetic, him and Xavi are the best players in the world :)

I think Spain deserved the victory more than Holland, because they actually went for it. It's funny to see how people blame the Spaniards of diving when Van Persie and Robben were doing the same. The referee was bad, but for both teams; not just Holland. It's funny to see how people wanted Iniesta to get a red card, yet they are justifying the nasty tackling and challenges "Come on! it wasn't that bad!". Point is that Holland should have been playing with 2 less players in the first half and with the fact that Van Persie once again proved he is overrated as hell, it would have been 11 vs 8.

You can't say that you got robbed when the referee was bad, really bad on both ends. I feel sympathy for the Dutch for loosing the final, but no way they can blame everything on the referee.


Holland had 2 good chances and didn't score, Spain had two chances and put one in... that's football. It wasn't a great match but Spain was much better than Holland, besides the pass to Robben, Sneijder was lost, Robben missed the great chance and if he goes down when Puyol grabbed him he would have gotten the foul and red card for Puyol, for a player like Robben who is always with his ass on the floor this was the time to finally take a dive, but he didn't... not a smart play.
You really are missing the point here.

I'm one of the people or maybe the only one here that's saying that it wasn't so bad. The Netherlands weren't kicking the Spanish players all the time. I agree with the person here that said that the Spanish players sometimes acted like girls, by falling with no reason. Iniesta was one of them.

The yellow cards Webb gave to the Dutch players were right decisions most of the time.

I even agree he could have send De Jong off. But the red card for Heitinga was a really pathetic one. Also I keep saying that Iniesta should have been send off.

I'm not justifying the nasty tackles, because there weren't as many as some people here are trying to make believe there were.

I also keep saying that Mathijssen and Robben missed some big opportunities and if the other team scores then they win. Indeed that's football.

I also agree that Van Persie is overrated. At least he didn't show his qualities on this tournament.

I can also agree with the fact Spain won, because in the end I also didn't think The Netherlands deserved to win. They simply weren't good enough.