discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

[Pete-Rock]

Kudos to you Rosa, Sepu, Metallifreak and everyone else I forgot. I love you guys. Trading is about passion, trust and still a hobby. Too many ppl trying to make a business out of it.

[The Commader]

JW come on, the price is really to high. Sell Bootlegs on ebay which you taped by yourself, it is not wrong I think, there you can also find original stuff (tickets, videos, DVD's and so on)

[Leighton]

This is what I said Forka. everyone pays and you have a confusion like buying the Perth show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But an intillegent guy meant, buying Perth ran fine???? Read page 4!

Only you and JW seemed confused to me. But thanks for the compliment.

No yes or no to my question, JW? I take it as a yes. And I'd like to know the justification for the hike. Is it just the hype you managed to create by saying there was nothing out there to trade for it?

[no leaf clover]

Kudos to you Rosa, Sepu, Metallifreak and everyone else I forgot. I love you guys. Trading is about passion, trust and still a hobby. Too many ppl trying to make a business out of it.

I agree with all those people too.

Trading is about passion. And the amount of passion that one has can't be caught in an amount of money.

Most of us that have a website have a line that sounds something like "Don't ask if my shows are for sale because the shows should be freely tradeable and then people start doing this??!??!?!?!?!? Are we nuts??!?!

Like others said the Mexico City show wasn't with us for the last 18 years and we didn't miss it then.
I don't miss it now. Would be fun if it had been going in circulation but it's not a shame that it won't as it seems now.

All the talk about rare stuff irritates me and annoys me as hell. I'm gonna remove all the RT marks from my website because shows should be available to everyone. All that bs about what a show is worth and shows should be traded for something equal. The only thing really equal are the discs the shows are burned on!

I've said some time ago around the Roskilde fundraiser that if this is the future of bootleg trading trading soon would be over. Now it seems that it is.

There's alot more stuff I want to get of my chest but I won't post it here because it would probably cause the biggest forum war ever and I don't want to be held responsible for that.

I think we on metpage should all think about how we can make trading how we want it to be: a hobby, trading shows freely without any restrictions at all (NFT and RT terms gone forever), based on passion and without the influence of money!
Don't tell me NFT and RT will be here forever because if we all say we won't accept that shit anymore than we can draw a line. It's that simple.

And let this be a place where there is room for criticism and discussion. It seems that lately alot of discussions here have to end in fights over really nothing!

[thomasbiglow]

This topic seems to have really shaken this community . Alot of us have spent time , talent, and money on the hobby.


For example Belfast 8 cam mix

I spent from May to August working on that mix. Collecting shows , watching them, mixing them , watching the mix, remixing them and remixing, until I got it to what I would call as pefect as you could ever get an audience cam mix to look like.


I traded the show out for regular trade and then seeded it. I could have sat on that fucker for as long as I liked , I could still being sitting on it.

(Lots of people in this community have done the same as above and seeded or traded wheather with cam mixes or for there own taping and then released them). I thank everyone who has done this. This has given me and others a chance to see Metallica in concert back when they were unable to due to being a kid or before they had even heard of Tallica, or just finaicial reasons.)


Then I noticed that some shows were going as RT , so I had to adapt my other releases as RT to get the shows I wanted. Adding fuel to the fire.

And now the community has come to this.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE FAULT OF ANYONE INDIVIDUAL.


I was up for the deal JW propoesed because well, I love Tallica


Why don't we come together as a team and get these unreleased shows liberated in this comunnity , this will encourage people to trade and tape shows and release shows.

Fuck I never wanted to tape or mix a show until I was on this forum for sometime. Collecting bootlegs here inspired me to do this.

Lets save this shit, Stop rare trades within this community, liberate shows together and share em with each other .

(I not suggesting spending money )

Sorry for spelling


lets start now. Lets do a vine for these 3 shows. People who have genuiley contributed to communtiy can sign up.


What do you think, I am asking people who have the 3 shows . Lets not forget that the people with these huge lists of shows and huge barter power would not have these huge lists if it was not for us.


P.S. I understand hows this trading works so please no negative comments.

[thomasbiglow]

Kudos to you Rosa, Sepu, Metallifreak and everyone else I forgot. I love you guys. Trading is about passion, trust and still a hobby. Too many ppl trying to make a business out of it.

I agree with all those people too.

Trading is about passion. And the amount of passion that one has can't be caught in an amount of money.

Most of us that have a website have a line that sounds something like "Don't ask if my shows are for sale because the shows should be freely tradeable and then people start doing this??!??!?!?!?!? Are we nuts??!?!

Like others said the Mexico City show wasn't with us for the last 18 years and we didn't miss it then.
I don't miss it now. Would be fun if it had been going in circulation but it's not a shame that it won't as it seems now.

All the talk about rare stuff irritates me and annoys me as hell. I'm gonna remove all the RT marks from my website because shows should be available to everyone. All that bs about what a show is worth and shows should be traded for something equal. The only thing really equal are the discs the shows are burned on!

I've said some time ago around the Roskilde fundraiser that if this is the future of bootleg trading trading soon would be over. Now it seems that it is.

There's alot more stuff I want to get of my chest but I won't post it here because it would probably cause the biggest forum war ever and I don't want to be held responsible for that.

I think we on metpage should all think about how we can make trading how we want it to be: a hobby, trading shows freely without any restrictions at all (NFT and RT terms gone forever), based on passion and without the influence of money!
Don't tell me NFT and RT will be here forever because if we all say we won't accept that shit anymore than we can draw a line. It's that simple.

And let this be a place where there is room for criticism and discussion. It seems that lately alot of discussions here have to end in fights over really nothing!

Sebastian


That is exactly what I am thinking. I must have been typing my post at the same time as you.




reason for edit : to correct my grammar , it sucks

[no leaf clover]

If someone has the balls to do what you suggest Thomas, that could be a huge step in the right direction.

[no leaf clover]

Kudos to you Rosa, Sepu, Metallifreak and everyone else I forgot. I love you guys. Trading is about passion, trust and still a hobby. Too many ppl trying to make a business out of it.

I agree with all those people too.

Trading is about passion. And the amount of passion that one has can't be caught in an amount of money.

Most of us that have a website have a line that sounds something like "Don't ask if my shows are for sale because the shows should be freely tradeable and then people start doing this??!??!?!?!?!? Are we nuts??!?!

Like others said the Mexico City show wasn't with us for the last 18 years and we didn't miss it then.
I don't miss it now. Would be fun if it had been going in circulation but it's not a shame that it won't as it seems now.

All the talk about rare stuff irritates me and annoys me as hell. I'm gonna remove all the RT marks from my website because shows should be available to everyone. All that bs about what a show is worth and shows should be traded for something equal. The only thing really equal are the discs the shows are burned on!

I've said some time ago around the Roskilde fundraiser that if this is the future of bootleg trading trading soon would be over. Now it seems that it is.

There's alot more stuff I want to get of my chest but I won't post it here because it would probably cause the biggest forum war ever and I don't want to be held responsible for that.

I think we on metpage should all think about how we can make trading how we want it to be: a hobby, trading shows freely without any restrictions at all (NFT and RT terms gone forever), based on passion and without the influence of money!
Don't tell me NFT and RT will be here forever because if we all say we won't accept that shit anymore than we can draw a line. It's that simple.

And let this be a place where there is room for criticism and discussion. It seems that lately alot of discussions here have to end in fights over really nothing!

Sebastian


That is exactly what I am thinking. I must have been typing my post at the same time as you.




reason for edit : to correct my grammar , it sucks

Am I really a prophet then?

[Paganec]

NT and RT things (I believe) were invented by filmers in a first place. If you filmed a show you would want to trade it by yourself, thats why you asking ppl to 'put this show as NT, put this show as RT'. I believe these terms are actually needed because of damn torrent system. Lets face it: some people spend a lot of money on dvd-r's and shipping, they spend their own time, in a meantime the other group of people waits for 2 months (e.g.) and simply download this show for free, not spending money, anything. How the hell this happened? Because a bit earlier the guy who seeded this rare show traded it for some kind of non-equality rare youtube sourced shit.

If we let all shows to be in a free circulation, I dont see a point in trading, cuz everyone will have the same lists, same shows. Of course I exaggerate things a little, but think of it. Selling of course is a bad thing, on the other hand, but dealing with sellers is a way too more easier than dealing with hoarders, the last category of people is just useless. But if you wanna buy a show (for reasonable price), seller doesn't trading for 10 years, he has a massive collection of VHS, hes not interested in anything, but he might sell some of the shows to you, its an opportunity.

Imagine that you got a show, super rare show, for 100$, this was the only chance to get this show, only paying. Now, you wont list is as RT, you would trade it freely? You can put RT mark and get something equally rare or you can get nothing. Maybe it would work for you, definitely not for me. I'm not talking about Metallica community, most of people here are awesome and trustful, but this about people outside this community, cuz there are shitload of different kind of traders around.

[tromster]

I can't understand how at first place you asked to trade this show and then you changed your mind and now you are selling a show which you DIDN'T pay and of course you DIDN'T filmed it, you are making profit from some others work. That sucks. Anyway I offered you two show check at the topic you started and let me know if you are interesting.