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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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unforgiven wrote: weird is still for me, Milton Keyes 1993 was offert FOR MONEY IN A FUND, and nobody complained, no its a war against me.
Old shows in funds we have alot here on MP , and nobody ever complained....
I don't remember any of those shows costing two thousand dollars.
The highest price I remember was 800$ for a full low gen Cliff show (roskilde 86).
People aren't so much complaining about the fact you're selling, more about the price.
unforgiven wrote: dont get me wrong I dont sell bootlegs I offer them in a fund
to sell something is to exchange goods for money. you'll get 2k$ and we'll get mexico 1993. that's an exchange of goods for money AKA selling.
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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how it will goes on?
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The Commader wrote: how it will goes on?
It won't Andy, for now.
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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I thought i would put my 2 cents in here seeing as this show is clearly getting so many people annoyed/angry/pi**ed off and such.

When i first came into the bootleg community i was on a website the 4 horseman i think it was called. I use to spend hours on my shit internet connection 56k dialup downloading mp3 after mp3 for hours so i could eventually get the show just to burn onto cd and listen to. To me it was worth every hour i spent getting these.

After awhile i came across metpage i was so thrilled that many of you were collecting lossless dvd and audio i was a little puzzled and wondered what this was as i was a newbie to the community. But it made sense people wanted quality shows. To me it was a big step up the first few months here on metpage i spent looking at various lists like desert rats just drooling over Brisbane 93 being my hometown show. Eventually after negotiations with fellow aussie traders i acquired this show. At the time it was not NT or RT it was just another dvd which meant alot to me. I eventually got it and even thought its not a pro shot it still has significant value to me.

Fast forward a few years down the line i started to see more and more rt and nt on peoples lists mainly due to the taper/filmer/authors wishes. To me being a hobby it is more than about what show comes out next but what show is known to be recorded/have a source in case various setlists are unique or what not. Its about having a show you might have that somebody else actually went to and experienced themselves. To me that is why these days i am in the reverse role of recording video or audio at gigs now.

Yes i do have most of my master recordings as Nft that is only because i went to the time and effort to a) buy the ticket to the gig B) sneak my gear in c) film the show and run the risk of getting caught and d) spending the time to author it to dvd. Personally these are only Nft so people know the source exists and at some stage when i feel ready i am more than willing to take them off as Nt or Rt and share them with the community if there is a general interest for these shows. Until then yes i will sit on them but that's because i went through all the effort to make them possible.

I totally disagree with various people selling bootlegs on ebay and such which is annoying when it can be the only way a show will be released and shared to a community but on the other hand when Dylan decides to sell his master recordings of Perth for whatever the price was i honestly do not see any problem in doing this. But when people ask for prices most of us all but do and laugh at eg. 1500 Euro it's more about personal gain than it is to "release a gem to the community" its a bit disrespectful considering we are trading shows for free as a hobby not for profit.

To be honest i don't really care about Mexico City although the hype has been around for years knowing it was "out there" was cool and to see it now knowing it is available now doesn't really bother me considering the current situation of "liberating" shows. We are a community here and lately from what i have been reading it's all falling apart as others like myself voice their opinion. I personaly am not a big trader compared to alot of you out there so this show seeing the light of day will and wont appeal to me.

Either way i thought i would post my 2 cents.


Edit : I will personally stop collection Metallica dvds when i get the 2 shows i went to last year Brisbane 16-10-2010 and the 18-10-2011. I understand these are not available to the community at the moment and i am more than happy to wait for these instead of jumping onto the "buying/donating" side of business trading seems to be these days. That's what makes it fun to me.
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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It's really sad to watch all that greediness and egoism in a community of so called fans of music. For me, music is a way of living but here I see no more than a way of people "eating" people. I couldn't expect to see that Metallica fans are ready to take advantage of each other in such a bad way.
It was a great opportunity to enjoy another show and let other unreleased shows out but oh, no, people stopped caring about music long ago it seems.
We're talking about music guys, that's all!!! This is the same with all the top 100 Metallica items sold on Ebay for extremely high prices. What makes something valuable is how much we seem to need it and I see no reason why we should keep up putting prices like this in stuff we don't own or we haven't filmed or someone else considered that valuable.
Which need is making people hoarding stuff which isn't theirs and use it as a teaser? We are not mice to run for the cheese. It's a piece of musical history and I believe there should be an effort to liberate that and not create more problems having it.

I know people from other trading communities like Nirvana's or Bad Religion's and this sick situation is something unbelievable, it only exists here in such an intensity.
That makes me think that I'll keep up sharing and caring for a few, limited people who share the same ideas with me.

@Mike: no offense, but why don't you let this show out? It's a common secret that you own it too...
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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I totally agree with you with all your saying!

Sick it is, like all these fundraisers here!
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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Sick it is, like all these fundraisers here!

But anyone paid till now
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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No, that's not true.

I haven't contributed to any of them.
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Re: discussion about mexico 93 pro shot

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ok, didn't knew it!
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zarko wrote: It's really sad to watch all that greediness and egoism in a community of so called fans of music. For me, music is a way of living but here I see no more than a way of people "eating" people. I couldn't expect to see that Metallica fans are ready to take advantage of each other in such a bad way.
It was a great opportunity to enjoy another show and let other unreleased shows out but oh, no, people stopped caring about music long ago it seems.
We're talking about music guys, that's all!!! This is the same with all the top 100 Metallica items sold on Ebay for extremely high prices. What makes something valuable is how much we seem to need it and I see no reason why we should keep up putting prices like this in stuff we don't own or we haven't filmed or someone else considered that valuable.
Which need is making people hoarding stuff which isn't theirs and use it as a teaser? We are not mice to run for the cheese. It's a piece of musical history and I believe there should be an effort to liberate that and not create more problems having it.

I know people from other trading communities like Nirvana's or Bad Religion's and this sick situation is something unbelievable, it only exists here in such an intensity.
That makes me think that I'll keep up sharing and caring for a few, limited people who share the same ideas with me.
I totally agree too!
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