2006.08.13 - Osaka, Japan

[JonaZ]

Thanks for shareing...

[forka2k]

Thanx a lot!

[M4ST3R M1K3]

Thanks a lot, only had an audience bootleg

[M4ST3R M1K3]

Only if they are burned as data, but I burned them as a music cd (was in my early days before I knew any better)

http://metpage.org/index.php?option=com ... 66&id=2078

I already have them but on CD-R, ripping them off will only make them loose a generation.

Eh, what? I mean, this is the first time I read something like this. I thought cds aren't cassettes, so if you copy the content it remains the same generation.

Btw I'll seed some of those shows you requested in the upcoming weeks.

Well for me FLAC->Audio CD->FLAC or Audio CD->Audio CD don't loose a generation. You could loose very few samples (some ms) at the beginning of some tracks if the burner is not calibrated with EAC/AccurateRip, but that's all.

[tikimaize]

Thanks for uploading. Very cool variation to have.

I have never heard of a digital copy losing a generation from copying.

[no leaf clover]

I have never heard of a digital copy losing a generation from copying.

Me neither. Unless you rip it to MP3 or something. And that's not the same as losing a generation.

[wolf]

are you sure about that.

I remember on TDD, a staff member told me that once I burn FLAC files onto CD-R as audio (not data) and then later on rip them from the same CD (EAC, from CDR audio format to WAV) it looses a generation and therefore it is not allowed to be seeded. The only exception to the rule is if the show is ripped directly from a Silver CD set, not from CDR.

Only if they are burned as data, but I burned them as a music cd (was in my early days before I knew any better)

http://metpage.org/index.php?option=com ... 66&id=2078

Eh, what? I mean, this is the first time I read something like this. I thought cds aren't cassettes, so if you copy the content it remains the same generation.

Btw I'll seed some of those shows you requested in the upcoming weeks.

Well for me FLAC->Audio CD->FLAC or Audio CD->Audio CD don't loose a generation. You could loose very few samples (some ms) at the beginning of some tracks if the burner is not calibrated with EAC/AccurateRip, but that's all.

[no leaf clover]

I really never heard anything like that.

[wolf]

5. CDR rips of material available on Silver CD and rips of CDRs burned from previously downloaded lossless files are not permitted.
We at The Traders' Den are trying to promote purity in the trading pool. When dealing with a set that has been released on silver pressed CD, we require that the lossless files have been cleanly ripped from an original silver CD. To help ensure that everyone has equal access to pure versions, Silver CD > CDR > Lossless is not a legal lineage. On the same token, once a show has been ripped to lossless media format, burning to a CD and then re-extracting is an extraneous step that often-times results in errors. FLAC, APE, or SHN sets that circulate may not be burned to audio CD and then re-traded or re-seeded. In otherwords, nothing like flac > CDR > (extraction method > wav >) flac. Please archive and trade only the original lossless files or acoustically identical alternate formats (verify this with st5s - see the Checksum Types FAQ). CDR generations are bad for the trading pool, and unless all versions of the bootleg circulate only on CDR, it will not be permitted here.

SBD > Sony DAT > PC Digital Coax Input > WAV > CDWav > APE > WAV > CDR(1) > EAC > WAV > FLAC (no lossless file > CDR > lossless file)
AUD > Silver CD > CDR > EAC > WAV > FLAC (no Silver CD > CDR transitions allowed!)
source: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq ... #faq_rules

[no leaf clover]

I was wondering if anyone has the coverart available that comes with this silver CD, because MCA doesn't have it in their gallery.