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Re: bitching from Denial trade thread

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Well i personally have no problem with the amount of shows anyone has,me personally,i'm not interested in 3 or 4 different versions of the same show,just 1 will do for me.But i really don't get this whole NFT/RT rubbish.I'm almost 49 years old,and have been a Metallica fan since the release of Kill 'Em All,i'm not a trader and have no aspirations to be one.But what i am is a true Metallica fan.I eat and sleep Metallica,and listen to virtually nothing except Metallica.I've only been collecting Metallica shows for about 3 years really,never really bothered with them before that,so i don't have as much as most of you lot.So really i'm barred from seeing the great shows that are available,because of some dumbass RT/NFT rule,as i don't have anything to trade,therefore how could i ever get to see these shows?Get my point?
I send the shows i have to a few people i've met along the way freely,i ask for nothing in return.if someone offers something in return,then if i want it,i'll accept it...as certain people here have found out when i shared the Fillmore DVD's i made on my seedbox,and asked for nothing back.If i ever get any show that's not been seeded here,then i'll gladly seed it,no problems.But it's a never ending circle for me,because as i said before,if someone is asking for rare stuff,then that's me out of the game,because i don't have rare stuff to get the rare stuff!..and so on...My only option is to pay for it,which i did for the Yankee Stadium show,and which i'll gladly do again.
Anyway,that's my side of the argument,i aint bitchin at anyone in particular,so please don't waste your hate on me!It's just the precious way these shows are treated by some,when really they should just be shared.......And until they are,this will never truly be a sharing community.

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Re: bitching from Denial trade thread

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at the end I think that the community is ok at most part, I came back to trading few month ago and was able to get huge amount of shows, I think that nowdays at least the Metallica (donno how is it at others) as for Videos is way better than the VHS era, I feel bad about audios tho..

all the talking about horders just fueling 'em to keep doing so, You said it yourself that it's just another show that you probably will not watch... so why care about so hoarder.... It would be nice to watch some new 80's videos that's ture ..

i also agree with hellawaits77 ,and will add that we are "lucky" that every show get filmed and enough gets out, much more than pre 2000 which were the Audio's prime and High Gen VHS.
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Re: bitching from Denial trade thread

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J0nn0666 wrote: Well i personally have no problem with the amount of shows anyone has,me personally,i'm not interested in 3 or 4 different versions of the same show,just 1 will do for me.But i really don't get this whole NFT/RT rubbish.I'm almost 49 years old,and have been a Metallica fan since the release of Kill 'Em All,i'm not a trader and have no aspirations to be one.But what i am is a true Metallica fan.I eat and sleep Metallica,and listen to virtually nothing except Metallica.I've only been collecting Metallica shows for about 3 years really,never really bothered with them before that,so i don't have as much as most of you lot.So really i'm barred from seeing the great shows that are available,because of some dumbass RT/NFT rule,as i don't have anything to trade,therefore how could i ever get to see these shows?Get my point?
I send the shows i have to a few people i've met along the way freely,i ask for nothing in return.if someone offers something in return,then if i want it,i'll accept it...as certain people here have found out when i shared the Fillmore DVD's i made on my seedbox,and asked for nothing back.If i ever get any show that's not been seeded here,then i'll gladly seed it,no problems.But it's a never ending circle for me,because as i said before,if someone is asking for rare stuff,then that's me out of the game,because i don't have rare stuff to get the rare stuff!..and so on...My only option is to pay for it,which i did for the Yankee Stadium show,and which i'll gladly do again.
Anyway,that's my side of the argument,i aint bitchin at anyone in particular,so please don't waste your hate on me!It's just the precious way these shows are treated by some,when really they should just be shared.......And until they are,this will never truly be a sharing community.

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You are right about the Rare stuff, It's kind of a problem if you share and than can't get NTF show with that. BUT if ppl keep with this state of mined nothing will be out..

put aside lame NTFs .. there's alot of sites that share DVDs that anyone with nothing, can have very impressive boolteg list.
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lame NFT's but everyone wants them?
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I would like to have only NFT from the 80s. (all those 2003+ NTFs are really lame I will not care about 'em even If i'll have a free leech links).

the fact the NFT is lame doesn't make it unwanted, It's only how you feel about it that metters.

what I feel -> what's out I want what's not out I really don't care/will wait for the day that it will come out get it, and let it collect dust. and If it's not just another show I'll watch.
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Re: bitching from Denial trade thread

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it doesn't matter if a show from the 80s, 90s, 00s or 10s is NFT...i know about quite a lot of NFT shows which have awful and unwatchable quality, who need these kind of videos and why are they NFT? i'm not interested in such crap...what's sad is that some NFT videos of shows i have been too exist and these aren't available for anything (maybe only for pro shot with cliff), but i accepted that a couple of years ago and i can live damn good without those videos although i could relive some awesome live moments when watching them.

the thing that annoys me with NFT shit is that it seems that certain filmers need every existing master of other filmers so badly and NEVER release anything themselves...a filmer who is not sharing anything should finally shut up and not critisise releases of other filmers who release their stuff, no matter which quality it has...also average quality videos can be nice memories for people who have been at this show.

BUT as a nick mentioned here a few days ago, there are so many metallica releases so we can really be glad to have so many videos to watch of our heroes.
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Like I said before:

More NFT/RT = Less availability of shows

Therefore people have to pay for the shows if they haven't go anything "rare" available to trade.

Therefore the community shrinks as people can't afford the shows and haven't got anything to trade.

Then trading stops altogether.


Stop trading with these people, force them out of the trading community and freely trade all shows with like-minded community members so that everyone is treated equally and can build some impressive bootleg collections.
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Cridds wrote: Like I said before:

More NFT/RT = Less availability of shows

Therefore people have to pay for the shows if they haven't go anything "rare" available to trade.

Therefore the community shrinks as people can't afford the shows and haven't got anything to trade.

Then trading stops altogether.


Stop trading with these people, force them out of the trading community and freely trade all shows with like-minded community members so that everyone is treated equally and can build some impressive bootleg collections.
Good point of view :) :yes:
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Sepu wrote:
Cridds wrote: Like I said before:

More NFT/RT = Less availability of shows

Therefore people have to pay for the shows if they haven't go anything "rare" available to trade.

Therefore the community shrinks as people can't afford the shows and haven't got anything to trade.

Then trading stops altogether.


Stop trading with these people, force them out of the trading community and freely trade all shows with like-minded community members so that everyone is treated equally and can build some impressive bootleg collections.
Good point of view :) :yes:
yep, i agree with both of you, but unfortunately this will never work because certain people are so greedy about shows and can't live without them...therefore they do anything to get a show, even trade with people they don't like (or better to say they don't like their trading attitudes) or trade with people who have proven more than one time that they don't respect any rules and one cannot trust them...in my eyes, this is the problem.
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norbinho wrote: yep, i agree with both of you, but unfortunately this will never work because certain people are so greedy about shows
So stop trading with them and force them out of the trading community