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damageinc wrote: That's not a bad idea but what if they upload one mp3 show in every 3 months? So nothing worthy, you know.
if one only uploads audio, he should have only access to download audio.
I think a minimum of 5 GB own upload in every month should be more ideal. Or another option is to let members above f.e. 250 posts reach the tracker. If you check it those who never share something back never say thanks or post anything on the forum either.
i would support that, zoltan, but unfortunately it can't be done...people will always have excuses...and yes, you are right, these downloaders never say thank you, quite a lot of them have never posted anything on the forum, but they download every show that's being seeded.
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norbinho wrote: we could easily do something against these guys here on metpage...in my opinion access to our tracker shouldn't be so easy...somebody who never uploads anything, shouldn't get access...there are a lot of people downloading stuff from our tracker and never upload a show themselves...it isn't too much to upload 1 show, let's say, every 3 months...this should be possible for everybody...instead of that people with very fast internet have prior status on our tracker and never have to upload anything themselves...i'm sure this ebay seller is also downloading from our tracker.
How would this prevent him from selling? Yeah, he should upload a show to get access to tracker, whats the problem? He will upload 1 (or 2, or 5) show and continue selling. If he has bad connection, he will ask his friend with good connection to do this instead.
He will find a way, no doubt.
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So by bringing in these rules you'd re-name the site Metpage:Elite Trading Community?Because it seems like a lot of people here just want it to be for the elite few who have all the rare stuff.Now,as i've said loads of times before,i'm not a trader,i send my stuff to other metallica fans,no matter if get anything in return,i share,not trade.Now i know some people may not like that idea,but that's how i roll.
If you expect people to upload once a month.how can people like me,who has NO access to the rare stuff that most of you have,be expected to upload a show when prolly 95% of people here already have what i have?If i can't get to the rare stuff that you all keep to yourselves how can i upload stuff?The answer to that is.......... i have to buy it.
I would like to see the Sonisphere show that was recently offered here for trade,but because i have nothing to offer,i don't get to see it...can anyone see my point of view?I wanted to see the mexico '93 show,but because the people who have it are not willing to share it,i've had to pay for it,but i'm ok with that,i've paid my money,and i get to see the show.I know it won't be allowed to upload it here,but i will send it to my friends and ask for nothing in return for it,because ALL Metallica fans should be able to see it regardless.
There are other ways of deterring people from just taking all the time from the tracker........Increase the ratio requirement,warn then ban hit & runners,get a script that requires people to post a thank you before they can get the torrent file,get more mods to keep an eye on post counts,ratio requirements,hit & runners etc...be pro-active...increase the post count requirement before tracker access.ALL FORUMS,no matter what,will have it's fair share of people who simply don't want to participate in the community,that's just the way some people are.
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J0nn0666 wrote: So by bringing in these rules you'd re-name the site Metpage:Elite Trading Community?Because it seems like a lot of people here just want it to be for the elite few who have all the rare stuff.Now,as i've said loads of times before,i'm not a trader,i send my stuff to other metallica fans,no matter if get anything in return,i share,not trade.Now i know some people may not like that idea,but that's how i roll.
If you expect people to upload once a month.how can people like me,who has NO access to the rare stuff that most of you have,be expected to upload a show when prolly 95% of people here already have what i have?If i can't get to the rare stuff that you all keep to yourselves how can i upload stuff?The answer to that is.......... i have to buy it.
I would like to see the Sonisphere show that was recently offered here for trade,but because i have nothing to offer,i don't get to see it...can anyone see my point of view?I wanted to see the mexico '93 show,but because the people who have it are not willing to share it,i've had to pay for it,but i'm ok with that,i've paid my money,and i get to see the show.I know it won't be allowed to upload it here,but i will send it to my friends and ask for nothing in return for it,because ALL Metallica fans should be able to see it regardless.
There are other ways of deterring people from just taking all the time from the tracker........Increase the ratio requirement,warn then ban hit & runners,get a script that requires people to post a thank you before they can get the torrent file,get more mods to keep an eye on post counts,ratio requirements,hit & runners etc...be pro-active...increase the post count requirement before tracker access.ALL FORUMS,no matter what,will have it's fair share of people who simply don't want to participate in the community,that's just the way some people are.
first of all, everything i wrote in my post was NOT about people like you if you felt attacked, mate...if you read my words again you will see that.

i will not post any names here, but there are people on this forum who have access to the tracker (don't know why) whose only action is to download shows...they don't post comments, they don't share, they don't do nothing...just download...not even take a second to say thank you...in my eyes this sucks a lot and i'm criticizing this since years.

when i say i want people to regularly upload shows on the trackr then i'm not talking about any rare stuff, just about uploading something (metallica shows or shows from other bands)...most people who have rare stuff don't upload it, they only share it with a handful of other hoarders...people who upload and share their masters with everybody like het2006 are very rare in the metallica community.

...and one last thing, even if you have rare stuff, it doesn't mean that you get anything rare back...that's the reason why i quit trading and my masters will be shared here for free (once they are authored) which i said several times on this forum in the past.

to sum up my thoughts, i'm against the "downloaders only"-members, people who never share nor participate in any positive type to the forum...that's the reason why i say we should think about tracker access, a minimum show upload ratio for a determined period etc.
i send my stuff to other metallica fans,no matter if get anything in return,i share
i have done things like that too in the past, i do it in the present and will always do this in the future too...a lot of people on this forum know this when they were looking for a show and needed help.

PS: i suggested people should upload every 3 months, not every month....just a sidenote.
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Re: When will ebay stop this f***in' bootleg seller?!?!?!?!

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I think it's time to create a tracker rules thread to discuss this.
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Why would ebay ban his ass when it seems the band are not interested in doing anything about these sellers? I contacted the band back in September 2010 about 2 people selling shit on their websites and guess what, both websites are still up and running selling the same stuff so if the band doesnt care, why should ebay?

Here's the websites i reported in case anyone is interested.

http://www.rockindvd.com/artists-Metallica
http://www.rockconcertdvd.net/shop_tien ... gory_id=78
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Filming shows is also illegal. Sure the band accept it, but the the promoter not! You can't say that one thing is illegal when you done an illegal filming job before. My opinion!
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The Commader wrote: Filming shows is also illegal. Sure the band accept it, but the the promoter not! You can't say that one thing is illegal when you done an illegal filming job before. My opinion!
If the band allows it and the venue allows it how is it illegal?
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Anywhere you see it that you have controls on the entrance. Go and show the security your videocam and you are out! I was caught 2 times! Filming is illegal!
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I have been caught as well and nothing was done about it. Like I said, if the band allows it and the venue allows it it is not illegal.