Bitching about trading shows before someone else gets it

[King_Nothing]

Glad I don't have that one, It wouldn't feel right knowing the circumstances.

Its standard to see traders/collectors to get greedy around the time that of a new tour, but it seems this is getting out of hand. Back stabbing, lack of respect & plagiarism of other filmer's shows is really un-cool.

[aeiseleusa]

the real problem in my opinion is that you can trust noone when it comes to trading of shows thay should not be available to the mas. to many traders are to personally connected to other traders that if you send a show to one guy he will slip the show to his buddy because they know each other since ages, but exactly this is what some tapers request should not happen. That that guy has a buddy and so on......
Just my opinion.
And I also feel bad for every taper if his wishes are not respected. It seemed that the nft got less and less after people got what they where looking for, for their recording, with this going down now, we can expect to get less shows again.

[norbinho]

the real problem in my opinion is that you can trust noone when it comes to trading of shows thay should not be available to the mas. to many traders are to personally connected to other traders that if you send a show to one guy he will slip the show to his buddy because they know each other since ages, but exactly this is what some tapers request should not happen. That that guy has a buddy and so on......
Just my opinion.
And I also feel bad for every taper if his wishes are not respected. It seemed that the nft got less and less after people got what they where looking for, for their recording, with this going down now, we can expect to get less shows again.

i think there are still enough NFT shows out there and i wonder why certain shows are NFT for so long....10 years and more

[deadone]

well that sucks i must say.
and then all the traders start complaining when shows are not released, who can blame the tapers if this is the sort of thing thats gonna happen with there shows.

and also like posted above, its def a buddy buddy thing with some tapers. passing shows onto there pals just because they feel the need to do so.

if every1 payed a little more attention to who filmed what, were, when and how then these things might not happen.

i myself if i ever trade for something listed as nft/rare or whatever it may be i always ask why its listed like that so i no for reference if i can trade it etc.
then if i do something as in trade it out when i know i shouldnt of done i have all ther crap coming to me and deservedly so.
but thats not gonna happen with me anyway

[metallifreak27]

jorg shouldnt of traded them out to anyone bar jake, SIMPLE AS THAT

jake is the one who has been screwed over the most, he went out of his way to film a show he wouldnt normally of for jorg, for the shows from jorg no one else had

all this mess would of been avoided if jorg had of ONLY TRADED them to jake, the NO ONE could of done ANYTHING else with the shows bar those 2 people

i would be spewing aswell if someone used my show in a mix, when all it would take is 1! email to ask, and usually permission given, unless i was in the middle of a mix too (like jorg)

so i think the lesson that really needs to be learnt here is, IF YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH SOMEONE, LIKE ASKING THEM TO FILM A SHOW FOR YOU, AND IN RETURN YOU WILL GIVE THEM BACK A SHOW "EXCLUSIVELY", KEEP IT THAT WAY AND DONT TRADE THE FUCKER OUT!!!!!

there, thats my rant, and also, all the above is MY OWN OPINION

[cfmoran]

jorg shouldnt of traded them out to anyone bar jake, SIMPLE AS THAT

jake is the one who has been screwed over the most, he went out of his way to film a show he wouldnt normally of for jorg, for the shows from jorg no one else had

all this mess would of been avoided if jorg had of ONLY TRADED them to jake, the NO ONE could of done ANYTHING else with the shows bar those 2 people

i would be spewing aswell if someone used my show in a mix, when all it would take is 1! email to ask, and usually permission given, unless i was in the middle of a mix too (like jorg)

so i think the lesson that really needs to be learnt here is, IF YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH SOMEONE, LIKE ASKING THEM TO FILM A SHOW FOR YOU, AND IN RETURN YOU WILL GIVE THEM BACK A SHOW "EXCLUSIVELY", KEEP IT THAT WAY AND DONT TRADE THE FUCKER OUT!!!!!

there, thats my rant, and also, all the above is MY OWN OPINION

That may have been a rant. But, you were dead on.

If you've made arrangements for someone to have a show of yours exclusively, it's up to you to keep it exclusive to that one individual.

[Fadingtoblack]

I'm really impressed with the way you all are handling this. Only a few months ago this all would've descended into insulting each other's mothers by now!


Metpage isn't the problem, we're only a place Metallica fans like to go. It's up to members themselves to be trustworthy, honourable and all the other qualities that used to be so important in the trading world.


Unfortunately the way I see it, Trade is suffering the same fate as the RIAA, the world isn't the same place it used to be, and the internet is changing how things are done. I don't know what needs to change, but I think something does or trading will just end, period, at least outside of an exclusive group.

[The Commader]

I've heard JW has my Berlin 08 show! Which bastard in here did this trade? Has the Trader balls and say: "I was it!"

[no leaf clover]

I don't think you will get an answer this way.

I suggest you ask JW.

[The Commader]

JW don't say it! I will wait if he put it into his list. I mean if he really got it or only some screenshots! Well Alex did a brilliant menue job for this Gig! I remember only 2 person I had given that one! If Alex has it I can't remember?