What Does It Take To Be A Fan?

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What Does It Take To Be A Fan?

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What does it mean to be a fan of any particular band? Are there "degrees of fandome"? Is anyone lesser of a fan if they are not as "into" the band as you?

I ask because I was questioning statements others made about Metallica and not liking anything they've done in the past 18 years, yet they participate in a fan forum. Someone else posted asking me why weren't they still a fan if they liked some of the bands music.

I was thinking about this conversation today and put it in light of my condisring my self a Rolling Stones fan. I consider myself a Stones fan but I haven't purchased or listened to any new Stones music in the last 20 years or so. It was about then that the Stones were turning rather pop and I was huge into GnR and had started listening to Metallica. :) But back in the day, the Rolling Stones were "IT" (when I wasn't listening to Ozzy or Led Zepplin that is). I scrimped and saved my babysitting money to purchase all their albums, knew all their songs, plastered my walls with Stones posters and Jagger's face. Now a days, I dont listen to their music very often, I don't collect Stones bootlegs, go to their shows, or even look for fan forums on the net. Yet, when I hear a classic Stones song on the radio I still consider myself a fan of the music and of the band.

This brings up another question. Playing the tired old classics in concert. We all bitch about Enter Sandmand, we are all so Metallica entranced we groan when we hear the beginning notes of the song. But when the shoe was on the other foot, and I was at a concert where I wasn't the "diehard fan" I only wanted to hear those classics. Last November, when I stuck around to see the Stones set after Metallica, I was board as hell during the 1st hour of their show. I was about to leave when they launched into one of my old favorites, leading into the 2nd hour of classic Stones set.
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Well since I'm French it's a bit hard to explain it in English, but I'll try for you ;)

I would say there is no degree as far as he fact to being a "fan" is concerned. I know a lot of people here in France who love collecting all the Metallica stuffs they can find, they are "collection addicted" they have 145 versions of Kill 'em all (lol), this is a certain way to be fan, they also love the Metallica music of course ;)

I also know people (like me) who do not collect that much but who are addicted to the Metallica music, some of them love watching bootlegs (like a lot of people out there hehe). Personaly, i go to their concerts and it's impossible for me to go to a Metallica concert when they come to France !

So, if there are several degrees, I'd say that those two degrees are the main ones.

This is just my opinion anyway, but this is a great questionn and this can be a great debate !! :)

I can ask though : When a fan says "I love everything before the Black Album" can he be considered as a die hard fan ?
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don't necesarely like everything the band does/did, but accept and respect those things
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I would say that you don't have to necessarily like everything that a band puts out to be a fan, aslong as you can respect and accept their decision for doing so (Load, Re-Load, St Anger)
I love every Metallica cd except St Anger, but I still love the band as much as I did before that was released. I cant stand people that call themselves "fans" after they ditch and shit all over a band b/c of one bad release.

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That is the shared opinion of so many Metallica fans, yet they still call themselves fans. I just don't get it.
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King_Nothing wrote:I would say that you don't have to necessarily like everything that a band puts out to be a fan, aslong as you can respect and accept their decision for doing so (Load, Re-Load, St Anger)
I love every Metallica cd except St Anger, but I still love the band as much as I did before that was released.
Very intelligent words man ;)

I totally agree with, the question of respect is also a big point !
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hey those were my intelligent words :P
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MetDream wrote:What does it mean to be a fan of any particular band? Are there "degrees of fandome"? Is anyone lesser of a fan if they are not as "into" the band as you?

I ask because I was questioning statements others made about Metallica and not liking anything they've done in the past 18 years, yet they participate in a fan forum. Someone else posted asking me why weren't they still a fan if they liked some of the bands music.

I was thinking about this conversation today and put it in light of my condisring my self a Rolling Stones fan. I consider myself a Stones fan but I haven't purchased or listened to any new Stones music in the last 20 years or so. It was about then that the Stones were turning rather pop and I was huge into GnR and had started listening to Metallica. :) But back in the day, the Rolling Stones were "IT" (when I wasn't listening to Ozzy or Led Zepplin that is). I scrimped and saved my babysitting money to purchase all their albums, knew all their songs, plastered my walls with Stones posters and Jagger's face. Now a days, I dont listen to their music very often, I don't collect Stones bootlegs, go to their shows, or even look for fan forums on the net. Yet, when I hear a classic Stones song on the radio I still consider myself a fan of the music and of the band.

This brings up another question. Playing the tired old classics in concert. We all bitch about Enter Sandmand, we are all so Metallica entranced we groan when we hear the beginning notes of the song. But when the shoe was on the other foot, and I was at a concert where I wasn't the "diehard fan" I only wanted to hear those classics. Last November, when I stuck around to see the Stones set after Metallica, I was board as hell during the 1st hour of their show. I was about to leave when they launched into one of my old favorites, leading into the 2nd hour of classic Stones set.
So because the Stones were turning 'Pop' you listened to GnR and Metallica... :huh:


I don't think you need to respect everything a band has done to be a true fan; I certainly don't respect alot of what metallica has done since TBA, not just musically, but thier whole Glam persona I despised. I am nontheless still a die hard Metallica fan. I think to a degree it makes you more of a fan if you simply don't simply follow a trend or listen to an album because it's cool, questioning and judging what your facourite band puts is what makes you a fan. Certainly not saying 'Omg I luv u Hetfild' like a 14 year girl watching Aus Idol.
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Danallica wrote:So because the Stones were turning 'Pop' you listened to GnR and Metallica... :huh:
Nope. It all happened at the same time. I was listening to much harder music and at the same time I was loosing interest in the Stones because their music was much more pop than rock.
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Danallica wrote:I think to a degree it makes you more of a fan if you simply don't simply follow a trend or listen to an album because it's cool, questioning and judging what your facourite band puts is what makes you a fan.
Does it make someone less of a fan because they like the albums you hate? Just because they listen to a parcitular ablum, are they judged as listening as "following a trend because it is cool" when in reality they listen to it because they really like the album? Do we then have "sell out fans" because they like and enjoy a particual direction the band has gone once the "true diehard - I only like them before the Black Alubm came out" fans has deemed the band as a "sell out"?
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No, I think you can be a fan even though you only like some albums the band does ! You don't have to love everything it does !

Personally, I don't like Reload, but still, I'm a heavy Metallifux, it does not change anything to my eyes !