Converting WAV to FLAC

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frantik2k3
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Converting WAV to FLAC

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Hello all,

I think I am running into an issue when converting WAV files to FLAC files. I stress think, because everyone that I am asked tells me I am doing it right, but I still get the same result... a 2003 2-CD show with a total file size of 623 MBs.

623 MBs seems a bit small to me for a 2-CD show, especially considering the original WAV files total 1.02 GBs.

Here are the steps I am taking...

1) Put CD into PC
2) Open EAC
3) Select the tracks and choose Action > Copy Tracks > Uncompressed > choose save-to location on harddrive
4) Close EAC
5) Open Traders Little Helper
6) Choose Format > Encode WAV Files
7) Select the tracks, set the encoding options to FLAC and Level 8 (best)
8) Press Encode

But then I get FLAC files that seem too small for a 2-CD show.

Any ideas for me to try?

Huge thanks in advance!
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Re: Converting WAV to FLAC

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frantik2k3 wrote: Hello all,

I think I am running into an issue when converting WAV files to FLAC files. I stress think, because everyone that I am asked tells me I am doing it right, but I still get the same result... a 2003 2-CD show with a total file size of 623 MBs.

623 MBs seems a bit small to me for a 2-CD show, especially considering the original WAV files total 1.02 GBs.

Here are the steps I am taking...

1) Put CD into PC
2) Open EAC
3) Select the tracks and choose Action > Copy Tracks > Uncompressed > choose save-to location on harddrive
4) Close EAC
5) Open Traders Little Helper
6) Choose Format > Encode WAV Files
7) Select the tracks, set the encoding options to FLAC and Level 8 (best)
8) Press Encode

But then I get FLAC files that seem too small for a 2-CD show.

Any ideas for me to try?

Huge thanks in advance!
no need to do it : ) a .wav file is already (LOSSLESS) (just my opinion)
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Re: Converting WAV to FLAC

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633MB is fine for a 2 cd show when its comepressed, because when its non-compressed the file size is gonna be over the 800MB limit for a cd.

But I am not sure of the problem you are having. Is it just with the file size or the actual compression to wav? If the latter, try using FLAC Frontend instead of trader's little helper. And if you are not satisfied with the compression file size, change the compression levels.
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Re: Converting WAV to FLAC

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porcelmc wrote: 633MB is fine for a 2 cd show when its comepressed
Really? I look at all my other 2-CD shows and they typically tune in at about 800 MBs.
porcelmc wrote: But I am not sure of the problem you are having. Is it just with the file size or the actual compression to wav? If the latter, try using FLAC Frontend instead of trader's little helper.
From what I can tell, the issue comes from converting the "raw" WAV files to FLAC files. I will try out FLAC Frontend.
porcelmc wrote: And if you are not satisfied with the compression file size, change the compression levels.
When using Trader's Little Helper, I was sure to set the FLAC output level to 8, not the defaulted 6.


I don't know, maybe I'm just making a mountain out of a mole hill here (or whatever the saying is). But my main concern is that I am not getting the best quality that I can out of this CD-rip. If I ever trade this show out, I certainly want it to be the best it can be.
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Re: Converting WAV to FLAC

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frantik2k3 wrote:
porcelmc wrote: 633MB is fine for a 2 cd show when its comepressed
Really? I look at all my other 2-CD shows and they typically tune in at about 800 MBs.
It depends of the complexity of the waveform. If the sound has a large frequency sprectrum, a large stereo separation, the output bitrate will be high. If the source is lowpassed (or lossy), high gen and nearly mono, it will much lower. A typical example is when you compress classical music that was originally released on a vinyl a long time ago when stereo recording didn't exist and when recording used to contain to frequencies about 8 khz. The compressed file will be very small.
frantik2k3 wrote: I don't know, maybe I'm just making a mountain out of a mole hill here (or whatever the saying is)
I think so.